There is something very wrong in this country when six young people meeting to discuss politics in a Quaker Meeting House are arrested by the police after a mass (twenty officers) invasion of the building (armed with tasers).

The freedom to protest, or even the freedom to meet in a room to discuss current affairs, are central to a democracy... if this freedom is now compromised (further), as it seems to be, we are in a very bad place!

#politics

h/t @Thebratdragon

https://www.quaker.org.uk/news-and-events/news/quakers-condemn-police-raid-on-westminster-meeting-house

Quakers condemn police raid on Westminster Meeting House

Police broke into a Quaker Meeting House last night (27 March) and arrested six young people holding a meeting over concerns for the climate and Gaza.

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@Bssr4 @ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon

This was in England. Under a Labour government!

@hugh @ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon
"Forgive my mistake, but it still applies here!"
@Bssr4 @ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon
What does? This is oppressive, but there is no Tr*mp/Hitler behind it, because it has continued through several PMs, of both parties.

@hugh @ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon

Getting off track, but Trump is pulling the same things over here.

@ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon And when a so-called Labour PM is okay with it, we're in a rather hopeless place.
@ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon And it is so transparently attempted intimidation. I mean, nobody serious claims that the possibility of violent resistance was even a consideration here. Although, given the way that even non-violent action leads to long prison sentences nowadays, activists may want to recalculate. If a well-placed Molotov cocktail carries the same price...

@martinvermeer @ChrisMayLA6

the lesson the suffragettes learned, peaceful gets you nowhere and arrested, so give them something worth arresting you for.

Same Police, same government mentality.

1/ @ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon Please note that two faces #starmer doubled down on the Public Order Act and specifically instructed the police chiefs to 'rigorously apply the letter of the law'. It started as a cunning plan directed at us #SODEM(outside the HoC) and #XR (on the bridge).
@ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon 2/ The law and the judiciary are 'obliged' to disregard the moral or ethical reasons behind a 'gathering of 6 persons or more for the purposes of political protest'. How they'd have dealt with the anti-apartheid rallies and the poll tax protest doesn't bear thinking about. We are visibly moving towards a totalitarian state. #Farage and #Reform must be rubbing their hands with glee.

@Palky55 @ChrisMayLA6 you mean the ones that turned into riots when the Met got heavy handed?

that is the whole plan, stop the protests gathering in numbers too big to handle, so send in the Gestapo to take out the organisers.

@Thebratdragon @Palky55 @ChrisMayLA6

It's gone worldwide now.☠️

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@ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon ... I'm utterly appalled...I'm very worried about these six young women vs twenty police!
@ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon this is utterly shocking! Can't you have concerns anymore about the climate in the UK?

@EvelineSulman @Thebratdragon

Whatever the reasoning, it will be justified in legal terms around conspiracy to protest in a way that would prove illegal, would be my guess - essentially its the thought police!

@ChrisMayLA6 @EvelineSulman @Thebratdragon UK sending lot of cash Palentir’s way. Pre-crime is a reality.
@ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon WTAF? Why not just issue the police with brown shirts and be done with it?
@ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon
Given the Met's recent track record in other matters I guess they're being sent out mob-handed on these outrageous raids so they don't get up to any mischief..

@Stevenheywood @ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon

We've known for a long time that the MET has a deeply dysfunctional organisational culture - it really has to be broken up into much smaller forces with entirely new leaderships, drawn from elsewhere. The interaction of its existing chauvinist ethos with repressive protest legislation really is dangerous.

And there's another context to this police repression: their utter failure to deal with real crime, with detection and conviction rates at truly shocking, miniscule levels - hovering around 2% for serious crime like rape and burglary. The good are targeted, the criminals are laughing.

@GeofCox Was just posting about this today. The crime clearance rate (resulted in a charge or summons) in the UK is 5.7%, down from 16% in 2015. In Germany it’s 58% & in Ireland 41%. The UK police are uniquely bad at their *claimed* purpose even with broadly comparable spending as a % of GDP (DE 0.9%, UK & IE 0.8%). They were always largely shit. Now they are laughably so
@potatogunkelly @GeofCox The UK police are deliberatly neglecting crime investigation in favor of what the wealthy want them to do : Enforcer grunt work.
@Stevenheywood @ChrisMayLA6 you mean one Officer to arrest them, 6 to watch him and 13 to watch them?
@ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon If they wanted to discuss politics, they should have done it on the free speech platform known as X The Everything App. /s
@ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon ....and the disappearings have begun....
@ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon Seems the politicos are terrified of the people they are supposed to represent. Something is very wrong. Am pretty sure #neoliberalism is to blame, at least in part.

@alex_p_roe @ChrisMayLA6

If you are against the Quakers, then you really are on the wrong side of the line.

@ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon I'm pretty sure the chance of you being on the right side are basically zero if your enemy is the Quakers.
@ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon
I thought I no longer had the capacity to be shocked by what this Government is enabling, but arresting peaceful people in a place of worship is a step even I had not imagined might happen.
@KimSJ @ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon I must admit my 2025 bingo card doesn't have Quakers as potential terrorists on it.

@spanghero @KimSJ @ChrisMayLA6

Quakers (all the ones I have known) are lovely but very determined people. And they know lots of non violent ways to make your life hell having had 400 years of practice.

@Thebratdragon @KimSJ @ChrisMayLA6 I've no doubt of their inner strength based on their actions over the years.
It's always the quiet ones you need to watch out for.
@ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon given the news recently I expected this to be another sorry tale from the states but to see it happened in the UK is horrific.
@ChrisMayLA6 I was so surprised I've signed-in to comment. I was talking with my son only yesterday about the Quakers. I know they hire their Houses out to the general public. How did the police know this group was meeting & what they discussed, I wonder? Did they spy on them on SM? What happened? It's been a long hard trek towards a police-state but - looking good for them now.

@semele

Yes, that's an interesting issue; what (who) tipped them off?

@ChrisMayLA6 The only other reference to it, that I've found so far, is in The Catholic Herald. Whatever it is, extraordinary to actually break into such a place.
@ChrisMayLA6 *Indi Catholic News, not the Herald
@ChrisMayLA6 Now I've found loads of references. Sounds like they were "on to" a known group they didn't like the look of.

@semele

Yes, I only saw it as @Thebratdragon posted the Quaker statement

@ChrisMayLA6 Yes, there's a lot going on lately!

@ChrisMayLA6 @Thebratdragon Have you looked at the world recently? We are in a very, very, very bad place.

The COVID debacle made it embarrassing to be human.... but 2025 has made me ashamed to be human.