The original Dear Abby was a badass, esp for her time, she was a champion for queer acceptance in her column and was very big on telling parents to listen and accept their children instead of punishing and fighting with them. But also this response is a banger. Top 10 advice columnist responses of all time.
@ami_angelwings Sounds more like "Snob Hill."
@soulexpress @ami_angelwings That's what it's called by locals!
@samhainnight @soulexpress @ami_angelwings I'm wondering when that column was from. As I understand, housing prices dropped a lot in the sixties, which was probably a big part of why San Francisco became a center for counterculture.

@soulexpress @ami_angelwings In my day if you were called a "nob" it meant you were a dumbass. In a rather non-fun and non-funny way. Like, "Fuck off, ya nob."

I wonder if it's because of Nob Hill. I always thought it because "nob" is also your head.

@crazyeddie @ami_angelwings I think the insult in question is spelled K-N-O-B, though.
@crazyeddie @soulexpress @ami_angelwings Knob means a door handle, or also a penis, so you are calling someone a penis.
@crazyeddie @soulexpress @ami_angelwings
in the UK nob is a euphemism for penis, and calling someone nobhead is a pg13 way of calling someone a dickhead.
@duckwhistle @soulexpress @ami_angelwings Maybe that's where I'm getting it from. I remember we used it as a kid, but I'm American so we probably just picked it up somewhere and used it wrong :p

@duckwhistle @crazyeddie @soulexpress @ami_angelwings

Nah, a knob is a cock and a knob head is a pg13 dick head. A nob is a toff.

@crazyeddie @soulexpress @ami_angelwings Nob Hill is a corruption of Nabob Hill, Nabob itself being a corruption of the Indian royal title of Nawab. That's because the very rich like the Crockers or Huntingtons lived there.

The original gay district of SF was Polk Gulch just downhill West of Nob Hill, before Castro took over.

@ami_angelwings these being the Hill residents who are absolute nobs

@ami_angelwings (Werenโ€™t most of those ghostwritten?)

The nun and priest one is the funniest one to me, as it can be interpreted in such a crazy amount of ways :)

@yon no, afaik she wrote her own column

@ami_angelwings Other way around, the letters themselves were ghostwritten according to legend. Or at least a portion of them. She definitely wrote herself.

There is a lot of snazzy replies from Abby over the years :)

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@fazalmajid @ami_angelwings That was one of the funny options :)

@yon @ami_angelwings well, Nob Hill was very WASP-y at the time, so they would probably find Catholics (or Jews like Abby) highly objectionable. That's the only non-funny explanation I can think of.

Its liberal reputation notwithstanding, SF was very square well into the 1950s and 60s. There are still inklings in Armistead Maupin's 1970s "Tales of the City", and Macondray Lane (the real-world Barbary Lane) is next door in Russian Hill.

Oh, but how I miss San Francisco and my little flat in Nob Hill...

@yon @ami_angelwings

I guess I can see concern over nuns and priests frequenting your neighborhood since I probably wouldn't want my kids getting the wrong sort of ideas from _those people_. ๐Ÿคท

@McKenna @ami_angelwings Many many layers. Subtle ones too.

(Thereโ€™s also a Catholics vs not Catholics one in there if you dig.)

@yon @ami_angelwings

Yep. Too much to unlock in a toot! Lol

@ami_angelwings succinct yet devastating. I love it!
@ami_angelwings A printed mic drop ๐Ÿ‘โ€‹๐Ÿ˜โ€‹

@ami_angelwings Nob Hill? More like knob end.

So obnoxious when people feel the need to meddle instead of letting others just live their lives.

@ami_angelwings

Do we have any intel on when this was published?

@MegaMichelle @ami_angelwings

1956-1987, but no luck narrowing that down with a quick search.

@deirdrebeth @ami_angelwings

yeah, I found this thing quoted in a few articles, but none of them included a date. Thanks.

@MegaMichelle @deirdrebeth i got it from "The Best of Dear Abby" 2nd ed (1989), the 1st ed is 1981 and I presume all the same letters are still in it, so it probably was published before 1981 at some point, but it's kind of annoying they don't tell you when any of these letters were published

@ami_angelwings @deirdrebeth

/me Considers if it's worth going to the library to use Lexis Nexis...

@ami_angelwings

Nabob is a word, that means wealthy or elite. The hill in question was called California Hill because California street ran over the hill and through the hood. Locals called it Nabob Hill when the Big Four ( railroad tycoons) moved in and built mansions. Locals shortened Nabob to nob and it stuck.

@ami_angelwings She did get fooled once when someone wrote to her using the late great John Prine song (aptly named "Dear Abby") lyrics. Always funny to hear that version.

https://www.songfacts.com/facts/john-prine/dear-abby

@ami_angelwings
Similarly, Miss Manners was once asked, "Dear Miss Manners, What should one say when introduced to a homosexual 'couple'?" She replied, "Gentle Reader. 'How do you do?' 'How do you do?'"
@stevegis_ssg there's also a similar one where the letter writer asks Abby what to say to a couple with dark hair and dark eyes where the wife gave birth to a blonde baby with blue eyes (implying cheating) and Abby said "congratulations!"
@ami_angelwings the invention of gerrymandering