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Childless Bambino 
Apparently some tech bros are having to learn the hard way that the creator of #Linux is a leftist
zappyhelix@kendricklmao8 Why everything have to become political?
Wurzelmann@zappyhelix @kendricklmao8 because everything is political. Always has been.
GoodNewsGreyShoes🔞(on hiatus)@wurzelmann @kendricklmao8 Bingooooo.👌✨
Being ABLE to "stay away from politics" is a luxury afforded only to those most insulated from prejudice in society, i.e. the most privileged (whether or not they know it 👀).
I'm sorry if your question came from a place of genuine curiosity, @zappyhelix, but the reality that most people on Earth live within is one where political will has an *overwhelming* impact on their lives.
Looking away from that impact doesn't make it disappear.🫤
@wurzelmann @zappyhelix @kendricklmao8
Or because social networks have left no space for moderate centrist views and pluralism and one needs to hate, offend and gather mobs to harass an dox people to get any views and reposts.
Or because social networks have left no space for moderate centrist views and pluralism and one needs to hate, offend and gather mobs to harass an dox people to get any views and reposts.
@tyx @zappyhelix @kendricklmao8
no, everything is by definition political. It is a privilege to ignore this and also a sign of ignorance, but politics are everywhere.
@wurzelmann @zappyhelix @kendricklmao8
>everything is by definition political
Only in a sense that politics affects everything not the other way round.
Even in my moderately short lifespan which captured three nation-wide catastrophic political events (catastrophic as in "full-scale war" and "country breakdown") I'd say most of the time way more things were considered non-political or were allowed to left on "agree to disagree" terms. And about "priveleges" I can just laugh as I've seen some real shit most of the people of my age in EU haven't (Ok, except the Balkans and Ex-COMECON members).
>everything is by definition political
Only in a sense that politics affects everything not the other way round.
Even in my moderately short lifespan which captured three nation-wide catastrophic political events (catastrophic as in "full-scale war" and "country breakdown") I'd say most of the time way more things were considered non-political or were allowed to left on "agree to disagree" terms. And about "priveleges" I can just laugh as I've seen some real shit most of the people of my age in EU haven't (Ok, except the Balkans and Ex-COMECON members).
Amira Magdalena@amymagdalena @wurzelmann @zappyhelix @kendricklmao8
It is indeed. But it also implies not having strong opinion on many topics on which radicals have. And I believe the question which we started with "Why everything have to become political" is not about what is literally political and what is not, everything is in some way, but about having strong opinions and interpreting every freaking word and gesture (except _that_ salute, it surely was) as political and demanding others (minding their own business useful for the society) to stick to The One Rulebook of Allowed Views.
It is indeed. But it also implies not having strong opinion on many topics on which radicals have. And I believe the question which we started with "Why everything have to become political" is not about what is literally political and what is not, everything is in some way, but about having strong opinions and interpreting every freaking word and gesture (except _that_ salute, it surely was) as political and demanding others (minding their own business useful for the society) to stick to The One Rulebook of Allowed Views.
@tyx @wurzelmann @zappyhelix @kendricklmao8 torvalds in that post only made one even vaguely controversial statement to anyone who isn't a MAGAhat, and disagreement on that point doesn't make one a malicious actor. The other points do make one malicious though. So, maybe you want to say which one you disagree with than leaving a cowardly level of plausible deniability.
@amymagdalena @wurzelmann @zappyhelix @kendricklmao8
>The other points do make one malicious though.
Radicals are so radical.
I am a left-leaning centrist and agree with most of the things Linus said. Though I am a) totally sure that any attempt to discuss any details on implementation of the mentioned topics will attract a ton of fanatics (in fact that "carefully licensed" already makes a person 'worse than Hitler!!!!11' bc "should be banned totally"), b) highly annoyed by the general environment where one is constantly confronted by the persons like you while having in general the views in line with the secular-humanistic-democratic principles.
Also fuck you. You're banned.
@tyx @amymagdalena @wurzelmann @kendricklmao8 My original point wasn’t high level. Yes, everything is political in some way. However, not every sentence should be taken as a political statement. If I say ”I like Linux” it means ”I like Linux”. To me it doesn’t mean anything else. If I say ”I like apples” doesn’t mean I hate oranges. Yet, some people take it that way when discussing especially online.
@zappyhelix @tyx @wurzelmann @kendricklmao8 come on, don't be shy, what's not in the rulebook of allowed views?
@amymagdalena @zappyhelix @[email protected] @kendricklmao8
I blocked this clown, but thanks for stepping in. 💜
@wurzelmann @zappyhelix @kendricklmao8 they blocked me but my client did save the last post which was amusing cause still no answer to the question, coward. BTW, I am a Marxist, they're right that I'm "radical" but I really didn't think bodily autonomy was a radical opinion.
@amymagdalena @zappyhelix @kendricklmao8
yeah, I read that too, found it somewhat amusing, because they've been dodging your questions all along. Oh well, good riddance. 🤷
Robots can be gay deal with it@zappyhelix @kendricklmao8 always has been, you're just waking up to it. Becoming woke as it were.
andrei!@zappyhelix @kendricklmao8 Because people in power use the mass media they own to weaponize any weaponizeable issue to obtain votes and subvert democratic process.
They wind us up and we vote as instructed by our amygdalas.
And everyone being at each others throats is collateral damage. The perpetrators do not care about this damage apart from exploiting it further.
The price we are paying is immeasurable and unspeakable.
Michael T Babcock@zappyhelix @kendricklmao8 because everything already is political. Politics, like philosophy, doesn't have many boundaries.
shroomie/joan (of the agaric system)
stoat@zappyhelix @kendricklmao8 everything being "political" is when I internalize hearing acknowledgements of other groups woes as an attack because it makes me feel uncomfortable having to think that I may be privileged where others aren't.
It's an attack on the ego, having to think that my, or my "demographic's" (race, gender, etc.) success is at least in part due to privilege and suppression of other peoples'.
@zappyhelix @kendricklmao8 thinking that everything is political just as of recently is a position of privilege. you never had to think about these things before. they didn't affect you. and because of that, when someone points out injustices, the USian republican media apparatus retaliates tenfold with "war on X" and "think of our children!", just scare tactics and crisis manufacturing.
So in reality, you can thank the republicans for making everything "political" with their stupid fucking culture war, so prevalent that even Linus had to make a comment swaying away the drones. He wouldn't had need to even talk about that otherwise.
Ceremus@kendricklmao8 Never ceases to amaze that the people often involved in software explicitly licensed to be communally owned, communally developed, with bonus legal judo to prevent private ownership from any corporate entity, also somehow thinks that leftism is bad.
Like, y'all walked into *our* playground, it's always worked like this and if you don't like it feel free to crawl back to Microsoft.
0ddj0bb@ceremus @kendricklmao8 they like exploiting free labor so it actually fits the model
@0ddj0bb @ceremus @kendricklmao8 the "free for me but not for you" crowd who also hates restrictive open licensing.
Corb_The_Lesser@kendricklmao8 Well, we live in a world where we've allowed full-time haters to define "not being a full-time hater" as "leftist".
Charlie. Probably.@kendricklmao8 Linus' original post is here: https://social.kernel.org/objects/60bcac97-e7c7-4899-a1b6-bb72196cddaf wait? what? that "link to post" isn't actually the original post?
Oh well, on my instance, it is here: https://hachyderm.io/@torvalds@social.kernel.org/110504866795909310
My intention was to show agreement and encourage people to go boost the original post and follow the original author. I had planned a little snark at the screenshot-of-a-screenshot nonsense and to say, hey, this is the Fediverse, we have no need for that.
I didn't realise how silly Fedi links are. This is totally broken.
Oh, yes, also: totally agree with Linus, here, and well said. Very, very well said.
Linus Torvalds (@[email protected])
@morgthorak I think you might want to make sure you don’t follow me.Because your “woke communist propaganda” comment makes me think you’re a moron of the first order.I strongly suspect I am one of ...
Paul Will Gamble 
🇨🇦@kendricklmao8 Linus Torvalds, still a gem after all these years! 🐧
Bill@kendricklmao8 I find it hard to swallow that "leftist" is the new term for "decent human being." It's just depressing.
David Guillot@Sempf Always has been @kendricklmao8
Henning Paul DC4HP
Aodh the sorcerer@kendricklmao8 In Linus we trust.
@kendricklmao8 Thank you, I’ve just found the original toot and boosted it, instead of boosting a twitter screen shot.
Pēteris Krišjānis@kendricklmao8 he has multiple times in his life declared that if what he believes or does is leftism and socialism, then "I guess I am".
Tor Lillqvist@kendricklmao8 Leftist in the American context. Not sure he would count as leftist here in his original home country. He is still also a Finnish citizen, as far as I know, but quickly searching I couldn't find any information whether he bothers to vote in Finnish elections, and for what party in that case. Anyway, that he moved to the US a long time ago probably is a sign that he can't be "extremely" leftist (in the European sense), at least... perhaps @liw knows?
Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤Linus Torvalds (@[email protected])
@morgthorak I think you might want to make sure you don’t follow me.Because your “woke communist propaganda” comment makes me think you’re a moron of the first order.I strongly suspect I am one of ...
Ada Hashtag@kendricklmao8 mastodon post showing screenshot of a twitter post showing screenshot of a mastodon post 🪃
Cybso 
(he/him)@kendricklmao8 Make Linux Great Again!
sarah tonin 
@kendricklmao8 honestly in the top 10 of linus torvalds posts
Janne@kendricklmao8 Seeing that post (again) makes me happy right now. I wouldn‘t actually need to care what Linus thinks, politically. Just one person of many. But I do care. Free software matters to me, and Linus is an important part of that bubble.
Sciences, Flute 🌍 
undead enby of the apocalypse@kendricklmao8 it’s kind of sad that this is considered “leftist”, these are some very milquetoast center-left-ish (idk if I’d call them even that, they’re just center) beliefs. If “not being a vile theocratic fascist” is all it takes to be considered a leftist, then it shows how we truly are fucked
Misuse Case@kendricklmao8 I think some of these people are confused because the most hardcore Linux people are either leftists or libertarians and Linux people in those respective political camps can’t quite get their heads around the existence of Linux people in the opposite camp.
Charlotte Walker@kendricklmao8 @ErickaSimone hmmm not so woke that he has a problem with using ableist slurs, I notice
Ericka Simone@purplepadma @kendricklmao8 off top. I’m not seeing the slur, nor does it make it okay to use it.
However. Jesus. I pray you see the bigger point at hand he’s making. Because it’s important to acknowledge.
@ErickaSimone @kendricklmao8 You’re not seeing “moron” as a very significant slur? That kind of makes me despair. The bigger picture I’m seeing is that disabled people don’t have a place in the left’s brave new world
@purplepadma No, I did not know that moron is a slur. At all. This is the first time I’ve ever heard. He might not know either.
Next. “The bigger picture I’m seeing is that disabled people don’t have a place in the left’s brave new world.”
Why would you assume this? Off his use of a word he might not know is “inappropriate?” Maybe your vision would widen if you stop narrowly focusing on supposed slights and understand this man just made it clear he stands with the people, overall.
@purplepadma I’m not going to argue with you. You can feel how you feel. But I’m going to ask you to decenter yourself and what you perceive to be slurs. I didn’t know. He clearly doesn’t know. People are not perfect. Your demand for perfection and for everyone to walk on eggshells because of your personal issues and triggers is selfish, especially during a whole nazi take over. Please understand. I get what you’re saying but FOCUS. NAZIS WANTED TO USE HIS SOFTWARE AND HE SAID NO.
@ErickaSimone Nice to know you’re only interested in certain groups’ marginalisation and oppression. The Nazis started labelling “morons” and other people with intellectual disabilities and murdering them ahead of other oppressed groups. Suggest you read a few basic Wikipedia articles on ableism and Aktion T4 before dismissing the importance of a whole group of people
@ErickaSimone @kendricklmao8 Wondering how you’d feel about me begging you to see the bigger picture about a post using a racist slur to make a political point
@purplepadma @kendricklmao8 @[email protected] that's really a big part of the post though, if maybe unintentional. That the fash in charge of the country he lives in have decided that centrist perspectives on the world are radical and woke.
@kendricklmao8 I like how succinctly he covers so many of the bases of the woke strawman argument.
agatha 
@kendricklmao8 the fact this is a post on fedi, which is a twitter screenshot, of another post on fedi is hilarious
@kendricklmao8 related but maybe not directly, this video on how the right teaches Marxism is fantastic: https://youtu.be/XuLJJK4oyxE?si=0PL9d3Ird0Sqdcjw
I see why the right is so concerned about schools being used to indoctrinate children now lol *sigh*
#philosophy #education #video
I see why the right is so concerned about schools being used to indoctrinate children now lol *sigh*
#philosophy #education #video
I Failed a Right-Wing Philosophy Class
LR@kendricklmao8 no he's centrist. as am i. as is you. there is no left left. we're all centrists. that's the two positions to be in: center, or fascist shithead.
Steve Hersey@kendricklmao8
Linus may be prickly, difficult to work with, and prone to respond with strong language, but for all of those faults, my respect for him has just gone way up.
Linus may be prickly, difficult to work with, and prone to respond with strong language, but for all of those faults, my respect for him has just gone way up.
garpu@kendricklmao8 Oh dear. that probably isn't going to end well for that person.
Joaquin Alexis SARITE-PEREZ
Fitz Bushnell@kendricklmao8 As if there weren't enough reasons to admire him already...
Mark Struberg@kendricklmao8 Why is every person behaving like a decent human being - and especially leave others THEIR freedom as they like - being called a 'leftist'? The things he mentioned is more liberal than leftist imo.