I want to see that masculine energy doing the dishes. Meeting with the kids’ teachers. Washing and folding the laundry without being reminded five times. Caring for the sick. Speaking up for women’s rights. De-escalating conflicts. Defending against toxic and violent speech. Promoting equality. Building a better world for people who are suffering. Learning from young and old, all genders and ethnicities. Being kind. That’s the masculine energy I want to see.
@wendynather do you see much of it? (serious Q)
@jerry I do see some of it, and I purely adore those who do. The sad thing is, those men are generally not running tech companies. 😭
@wendynather I have this hypothesis that people who run tech companies generally have to be sociopaths in order to be “successful”
@jerry I have known a very few exceptions to the rule. I was privileged to work for one of them.
@jerry @wendynather I've worked for a few, myself. Or, if not sociopaths, just so generally unwell in a lot of other ways that their business ability was one of their only redeeming factors.
@jerry @wendynather I think the sociopaths have driven the non-sociopaths out. I wouldn’t want to associate or do deals with those people. Would you?

@jerry There is certainly something to this theory. I never wanted that role, and when I was pushed into it I only managed to endure for four years.

@wendynather

@jerry @wendynather I suspect this is close to nailing the problem. There’s a lot of ethics bending and shitty decisions that drive off most folks with high EQ
@jerry @wendynather It's not a requirement, but it would make everything vastly easier and more profitable.
@wendynather @jerry Maybe people with that kind of masculine energy don't really want to run tech companies? (at least tech companies as we have currently)

@wendynather @jerry tbh, that bar might be to high for many men.
Maybe we can start them off on that journey easy, for example with teaching them SHUTTING THE FUCK UP once in a while and listen to the people who actually know something instead of yapping shit they make up on the spot.

(This post is inspired by the utter disgusting tool of an "AI" ceo, who said learnng to make music is no fun, so lets just have our software fed with stolen music make it)

@wendynather As someone with a shitty brain that decided it didn't need to produce the right amount of chemicals to function, I can't always succeed here no matter how hard I try. (Washing and folding the laundry without being reminded five times.) :\

@NosirrahSec You are missing the point. No matter your brain, you just shouldn’t take it for granted that somebody else does all of that for you so that you can do just the “manly” things instead. Don’t let the society’s expectations for “proper male conduct” stop you from doing what’s right.

@wendynather

@WPalant @wendynather Sorry, I took it personally where I shouldn't have given certain life events recently lol very specifically called out for things like this more often than I can count.
@NosirrahSec @WPalant @wendynather I too felt a twinge of guilt that I can't remember to do laundry even *with* 5 reminders, and have social awkwardness that makes it very difficult to meet my kids' teachers. But it's a great point that we shouldn't take it for granted. We can suck at those things and not be bad people. The important thing is that we recognize it for the work that it is, and do our part to offset that with work of our own, whatever it happens to be that we are good at contributing. Equality and mutual support!
@hosford42 @NosirrahSec @WPalant Well spoken! We can aspire to the work even if we can’t do it perfectly.

@wendynather

It's almost like everything that every mattered about being a good man was always just about being a good person.

@wendynather As a single father busy raising 4 kids, I find this post disappointing. I've always been the one to meet with teachers, make meals, do the laundry, do the shopping, care for my children, etc. And I know I'm not the only caring father.

I'm disappointed because flip the roles and see how toxic it sounds. Would you say "I want to see a woman that can change the oil or swap the tires, add an extension to the house, open a jar, shovel the driveway, teach the kids to snowboard, etc...?"

@charette To be clear, I do know men who are doing all these things I listed. Just not enough of them do.

And as a single mother of two, I do all the things you listed.

@wendynather @charette It might be considered an unfair gender based generalization except for the fact that on average men are failing to meet the bar in household work.

"The latest available data shows that employed women spend about 2.3 hours daily on housework; for employed men, this figure is 1.6 hours. Gender gaps in housework participation are the largest among couples with children"

https://eige.europa.eu/publications-resources/toolkits-guides/gender-equality-index-2021-report/gender-differences-household-chores

Gender differences on household chores entrenched from childhood

European Institute for Gender Equality

@wendynather

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

Robert A. #Heinlein

@wendynather what you're saying is that you want White masculine energy to look like Black masculine energy already does