Thomas Guillerme
Alina LeonovaHey Mastodon, Iโm running a small experiment here. Please boost for better reach ๐
Do you add alt-text to your images?
Always
Sometimes
Never
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butterscotch@AlinaLeonova describing the cat pictures is the best part
@butterscotch I can imagine ๐
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I always add #AltText, but since it is a PITA and I would feel bad not using alt text I tend to post #Images to #Mastodon less.
I always add #AltText, but since it is a PITA and I would feel bad not using alt text I tend to post #Images to #Mastodon less.
Anton Hunter
Escapist 
๐ช๐บ@HunterAnton @Methylcobalamin @AlinaLeonova
Or using altbot. Example:
UESP (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image "Speak through me, Y'ffre. Tell us of the drum-play of Mara, who beat out a pulse against the darkness that gnawed Old Ehlnofey. Mara, whose eyes glitter like hot coals, known of mer and knowing mer, mother of a thousand-thousand children. She who looks at Arkay's form and does not blush, but breathes deep the scent of Him." --The Green Singing
@Methylcobalamin Whatโs a PITA?
usmu ๐๐ณ๏ธโ๐๐ค@AlinaLeonova @Methylcobalamin I believe shorthand for pain in the ass
@usmu Good to know, thanks ๐๐
jeSuisatire neindochohh แโฬคแแทActually it's a beautiful and interesting challenge, even the PITA effect itself.
:)
I have a feeling you misread my comment. I was only explaining what PITA means to answer a question, not stating my feelings on alt=text. It was somebody else who used it for that
I mentioned wrong, just changed the order.
sry
In any case my comment wasn't mend to address or interpret feelings but a simple statement on creating #ALTtext themself and the:
"Ohh no, I'm in such a hurry to toot my world saving information and have to add some picture description .. :( "
ALT-text isn't a simple image description for me anymore, it adds more content and interpretation and even adds character length to some toot's.
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@AlinaLeonova PITA == Pain In The Ass.
derptron@AlinaLeonova @Methylcobalamin A pocket you shove all your hate into and then eat it.
@crazyeddie @AlinaLeonova with mustard, hummus, sprouts, and cucumbers.
Bill@Methylcobalamin @crazyeddie @AlinaLeonova
Don't forget the tatziki
@w_b @crazyeddie @AlinaLeonova
Today I Learned.
Ketakater@Methylcobalamin @AlinaLeonova I agree it's a PITA but I refuse to post less pics because I'm too lazy for an alt text ๐
Jupiter Rowland@๐บ๐ธ ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ฎ๐ฑ ๐ง ๐ฅฆ @Alina Leonova I may not be on Mastodon (seriously, I'm not, open my profile and look at it), but same here. My image posts are usually one every few weeks, sometimes with more than a month in-between.
I can't churn out image posts daily if it takes me hours to write a proper explanation for one meme post or several days to describe and explain one original image in a way I consider sufficient. In fact, it takes long enough to find motives that won't cause me to spend weeks describing and explaining the image.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Hubzilla #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta
I can't churn out image posts daily if it takes me hours to write a proper explanation for one meme post or several days to describe and explain one original image in a way I consider sufficient. In fact, it takes long enough to find motives that won't cause me to spend weeks describing and explaining the image.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Hubzilla #ImageDescription #ImageDescriptions #ImageDescriptionMeta #CWImageDescriptionMeta
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Oh, then I voted wrong, because that's what I do too. Recently diagnosed ND because of serious lack of daily spoons, also vision impaired, and in no way interested being harassed for not providing alt texts, so no pictures from me. ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
What does ND mean? The spoon reference? I got lazy once and posted a slightly complex infographic without alt text. It would have taken a long time to describe everything in it. A sighted person complained, so I deleted the post. End result, nobody got to have it.
I'm not saying that should be the way things are. If a 1-2 line alt text adequately describes an image I do not. Visual humor and infographics require doing a lot more writing, so I don't post those.
To put it more briefly, having only images with alt text can be done 2 ways. Putting alt text in all images or not posting images. I often choose the second option as I am lazy and I would feel bad posting images without alt text.
@Methylcobalamin @AlinaLeonova
Another thing I seriously love about the alt text enforcers is the hypocrisy.
My ND situation inhibits my attention span so I can't just listen or watch to a stream of linear media from the beginning to the end. But it also enables me to read very fast and to take in and process informations in a quicker than average way. So my preferred way of accessing media is reading.
I've never had anyone even reply to my request for a transcript of their media.
Hiker@hiker Sorry, I know, I should have said Fediverse, my bad ๐
@AlinaLeonova Ok ๐
DJGummikuh@AlinaLeonova Really missing a "most of the times" here ๐
@DJGummikuh You can choose always, a small margin of error is acceptable๐
Amro has been
Pit mit "Klatsch"Please add "Almost"...
I'm getting better from image to image to not forget to add a sufficient Alt-Text.
I selected "Always" cause it's definitely the goal I'll reach.
Good Alt-Text is, even for me as a sighted person, a very useful enhancement.
@CannaParts I canโt add options now because it would reset the poll ๐ But yeah, if itโs almost, you can definitely choose always.
The Great Llama 
@CannaParts @AlinaLeonova
I tend to use alt text for a bit of commentary - I always strive to be descriptive, but I tend to use the space to add a bit of wit just to make it more fun for me.
I tend to use alt text for a bit of commentary - I always strive to be descriptive, but I tend to use the space to add a bit of wit just to make it more fun for me.
Autoerotic Defenestration@AlinaLeonova almost always :-)
I actually enjoy doing it, and have discovered it as sort of an art form of its own :)
@danielaKay Yeah, it can be an exercise creative/descriptive writing โบ๏ธ
Tradeless Earth@AlinaLeonova Recently started โฎ๏ธ
Lux 
@PrPl thank you ! @AlinaLeonova
crossgolf_rebel - kostenlose Kwalitรคtsposts@AlinaLeonova Is it good or bad that you only ask the Mastodon users in the Fediverse?
The #Calckey users in the Fediverse always make picture descriptions....
although anyone who uses mastodon belongs to a strange people ๐
The #Calckey users in the Fediverse always make picture descriptions....
although anyone who uses mastodon belongs to a strange people ๐
Thomas Lobig@crossgolf_rebel I, too, hate it when ppl. say Mastodon users are obnoxious. Obviously Calckey are just as obnoxious.
@AlinaLeonova
@AlinaLeonova
@crossgolf_rebel Sorry, meant Fediverse, Iโm not an expert on this platform, but I meant to ask everyone.
@AlinaLeonova Sorry, I don't want to make a fool of you. It just comes across as silly when only the people at the party who are wearing a blue jacket are addressed ;)
Mastodon is just one software of over 150 other access points to the Fediverse.
And unfortunately people like you always fall into the trap because the Fediverse isn't reported properly and the tech bros always equate Mastodon with the Fediverse.
Sorry again for snapping at you, I've been quite allergic to this generalisation lately
Mastodon is just one software of over 150 other access points to the Fediverse.
And unfortunately people like you always fall into the trap because the Fediverse isn't reported properly and the tech bros always equate Mastodon with the Fediverse.
Sorry again for snapping at you, I've been quite allergic to this generalisation lately
@crossgolf_rebel Iโm not a tech bro lol if anything I donโt understand the mysterious workings of the Fediverse well enough, and thatโs why I made the mistake ๐ I get that itโs probably obvious for you, but many people (myself included) have very little understanding of how it works. Doesnโt mean any malicious intent though.
@AlinaLeonova By Tech Bro I don't mean you, but the "experts" who explain the Internet to everyone else and unfortunately 99% of them fail because they don't understand it themselves.
Mastodon is nothing more than a browser in the Fediverse network.
It has certain functions that it makes available to you.
I myself use Calckey as a Fediverse browser, which offers me even more possibilities.
I can make quoted posts, write up to 7,000 characters, take 10 pictures in the text, have a drive for my pictures and videos and much more.
There is a good video about the sister service #Sharkey that works similarly.
Maybe it will help you understand the differences between the services.
And I'll attach a picture, our service shows us which services or software the instances connected to us are using.
I hope this explains more clearly how it works when you greet the blue jackets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ4Xm92vcq8&t=0
Mastodon is nothing more than a browser in the Fediverse network.
It has certain functions that it makes available to you.
I myself use Calckey as a Fediverse browser, which offers me even more possibilities.
I can make quoted posts, write up to 7,000 characters, take 10 pictures in the text, have a drive for my pictures and videos and much more.
There is a good video about the sister service #Sharkey that works similarly.
Maybe it will help you understand the differences between the services.
And I'll attach a picture, our service shows us which services or software the instances connected to us are using.
I hope this explains more clearly how it works when you greet the blue jackets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ4Xm92vcq8&t=0
Sharkey - Taking a DEEP DIVE into these Shonkified Features - Fediverse Software
Angua 
@AlinaLeonova
I haven't used Calckey for a long time now.
Other Misskey forks including Sharkey & CherryPick (Misskey's own fork) show a popup if you haven't added AltText.
Misskey itself I think also does this.
So technically we do automatically.
If I can't do AltText on an image etc, I add it in the body of the text.
Another plus for Misskey - default 3000 character limit; forks and individual instances are higher, so easier to do in fact.
Often I do both for good measure.
If I absolutely can't then I add #Alt4You
@crossgolf_rebel
I haven't used Calckey for a long time now.
Other Misskey forks including Sharkey & CherryPick (Misskey's own fork) show a popup if you haven't added AltText.
Misskey itself I think also does this.
So technically we do automatically.
If I can't do AltText on an image etc, I add it in the body of the text.
Another plus for Misskey - default 3000 character limit; forks and individual instances are higher, so easier to do in fact.
Often I do both for good measure.
If I absolutely can't then I add #Alt4You
@crossgolf_rebel
Andrew Lewis Workshop@AlinaLeonova always, except when I forget, or when the image is already described in the post itself.
Jabsonik@AlinaLeonova @UnconventionalEmma โAlmost alwaysโ wouldโve been the exactly right choice for me.
zeitverschreib [glitch]Hey Alina, Iโm running a small experiment here. Please boost for better reach ๐
Does your question include users from other platforms, even though you mention Mastodon exclusively?
Yes
No
There's more?
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@zeitverschreib Huh I mean everyone who can see this post. I guess I should have said Fediverse?
@AlinaLeonova That would have been great. ๐ค
@zeitverschreib Sorry! I amended it in the comments, but I don't think I can edit the post without resetting the poll.
Gillinger@AlinaLeonova
If that poll is correct then there are many more "Never"s than are owning up to it. I don't see even half the images on here with #AltTxt
If that poll is correct then there are many more "Never"s than are owning up to it. I don't see even half the images on here with #AltTxt
@Gillinger The sample size might not be enough for accuracy, or people who never do it might not vote. I see quite a lot of images with alt-text. Iโd say most of them in my timeline, but the truth is, I donโt always check, so I might be wrong.
Norihiori@AlinaLeonova What is a "boost" ? I have "share", "Star" and "bookmark" icon only. ๐ค
Mrs Beanbag@norihiori @AlinaLeonova boost is ๐
@norihiori Boost is share, looks like a rocket (at least in ice cubes app) ๐
@Norihiori
Icon: Share
Mastodon: Boost (not Retoot, don't even think about using that word)
Twitter: Retweet/RT
Icon: Star
Mastodon: Fave
Twitter: Like
#FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Twitter #๐ #Mastodon #Like #Fave #Retweet #RT #Boost #Retoot
Icon: Share
Mastodon: Boost (not Retoot, don't even think about using that word)
Twitter: Retweet/RT
Icon: Star
Mastodon: Fave
Twitter: Like
#FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Twitter #๐ #Mastodon #Like #Fave #Retweet #RT #Boost #Retoot
groff ๐บ๐ฆ@AlinaLeonova I try to but I don't always. I've ended up often deleting pictures or whole toots because I'm not happy with the alt text, or it's taking 10 minutes to write and rewrite and one finger typing on a phone with my massive hands is horrible. On the plus side I waste less time on mastodon now, as does everyone else who benefits from me not taking up space on their timeline.
@AlinaLeonova
"Is it good alt text" would be more interesting, but that would be for others to judge. I've seen a lot that doesn't get close to conveying the spirit or information in the picture.
"Is it good alt text" would be more interesting, but that would be for others to judge. I've seen a lot that doesn't get close to conveying the spirit or information in the picture.
@geoffl For now I just want to know how many people do it. How well is a different question, but I think effort counts because not everyone is good at descriptions and it might take some time to learn.