Jeff SeelbachNov 7, 2024
Dr. Redfern Jon Barrett

If you're worried about storing your data with US tech companies in light of the election results, this link has a list of European alternatives. These include:

- Email hosting
- Cloud storage
- Domain name registration
- Navigation apps
- Many other services

Stay safe.

https://european-alternatives.eu/

Edit: Follow the creator at: @european_alternatives

European Alternatives

We help you find European alternatives for digital service and products, like cloud services and SaaS products.

European Alternatives
Nov 6, 2024 at 12:09pmWeb
Show threadJavier Jimenez ShawNov 6, 2024
@redfern @Ruth_Mottram
Were you looking for this list?
Show threadXeno Danger EvilNov 7, 2024
@redfern i have used gandi.net for years. They are French.
Borders and jurisdictions are an important barrier to spyig and data harvesting
Show threadRedon SkikuliNov 7, 2024
@redfern thanks for sharing. I assume this is about EU countries, which are less in number than the continent.
Show threadDr. Redfern Jon BarrettNov 7, 2024
@rskikuli Not only, Proton, for example, is Swiss
Show threadRedon SkikuliNov 7, 2024
@redfern true. Apologies, but I get triggered with the EU and Europe thing. Especially at airports and borders.
Show threadNangpa πŸ‡³πŸ‡΄Nov 7, 2024

@redfern
@Jostein

This is a Norwegian alternative

https://frontoffice.no/

Domene, e-post, webhotell og SMS - FrontOffice AS

FrontOffice As tilbyr domene, e-post, SMS, webhotell, virtuell servere (VPS). Registrer ditt .no domenenavn hos oss.

FrontOffice AS - Domene, webhotell og SMS for alle behov - FrontOffice As
Show threadKevin Karhan Nov 7, 2024

@redfern Problem may be that these too may also be subject to #CloudAct, i.e. #Contabo has #Dataventers in the #USA too.

Show threadRaymond W GallacherNov 7, 2024
@redfern
Excellent idea. Will boost
Show threadRichard W. Woodley ELBOWS UP πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸŒΉπŸš΄β€β™‚οΈπŸ“· πŸ—ΊοΈNov 7, 2024

@redfern

Also external hard drives are relatively inexpensive for storing data backups. I just do a simple copy paste of my documents folder and subfolders every 10 days. it does not have to be complicated but there are lots of automated software solutions available.

Show threadAngela ScholderNov 7, 2024
@the5thColumnist @redfern As long as you remember the phrase: "One backup is NO backup!"
Show threadRichard W. Woodley ELBOWS UP πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦πŸŒΉπŸš΄β€β™‚οΈπŸ“· πŸ—ΊοΈNov 7, 2024
@AngelaScholder @redfern
I alternate my backups on 2 different external drives so at most I would lose last twenty days, and if I'm working on something extremely important I make more regular backups on a USB drive of that file.
Show threadStΓ©phane PAILLETNov 7, 2024
@redfern I put here the Mastodon account to follow them @european_alternatives
Thank you.
Show threadDr. Redfern Jon BarrettNov 7, 2024
@stephanepaillet @european_alternatives Fantastic, thank you!
Show threadThibaultmol 🌈Nov 7, 2024
@redfern (the author isn't right, it should be @european_alternatives @mastodon.social (without the space)
Show threadStΓ©phane BortzmeyerNov 7, 2024
@redfern I'm a bit surprised by the list of domain name registrars.
1) There are many others. How the selection was made?
2) If you use a thick registry like your .SHOP, data will be sent to the registry, anyway (Japan in the case of .SHOP)
Show threadKevin Karhan Nov 7, 2024

@bortzmeyer @redfern many firms have U.S. subsidiaries thus are subject to #CloudAct...

Show threadReayNov 7, 2024
@redfern @smallcircles @european_alternatives
@FirewallDragons
Show threadvarjolintuNov 7, 2024
@redfern @european_alternatives Weird. Bitwarden is listed in the site as an alternative, but they are from California, United States? And for example KeePassXC is not listed on the site even if it has a German address and majority of the core developers are European πŸ€”
Show threadEuropean AlternativesNov 7, 2024
@varjolintu @redfern You are right Bitwarden is not European, but that is why they are listed under a sperate section named "Self-hosted & open source" at the bottom of the list. There is also a disclaimer on the detail page. This is the reason why we are still listing them is because European companies can host those applications themselves on European cloud providers or on their infrastructure. Regarding KeypassXC, we'll look into that.
Show threadvarjolintuNov 8, 2024
@european_alternatives Thanks. I assume there are many software that allows hosting on Europe, but that still doesn't make the application "an European alternative". And it is KeePassXC, not with Key :)
Show threadAngela ScholderNov 7, 2024
@redfern Seems there are many providers and services that can be added to that lists...
Show threadNelsonNov 7, 2024

@redfern @european_alternatives This seems like a good concept, but I have a concern: Some places in Europe seem to be falling to fascism as well. Hungary (Fidesz), Italy (Brothers of Italy), and the Netherlands (Geert Wilders) come to mind, but since I'm not a European and there are many EU countries that I'm not familiar with, it's hard to keep track.

Isn't it important to also keep track of how fascist the European countries on this list are? Which of these are actually safe (for now)?

Show threadAngela ScholderNov 7, 2024
@skyfaller @redfern @european_alternatives Well, and Scholz in Germany just set the most likely collapse of the German government in motion by firing one minister with then the Liberals withdrawing.
Curious if they will manage to keep it going, or that it's going to be elections in the Spring.
Obviously with a big risk of AfD gaining a lot of power as they already did in two eastern states.
Show threadPaul SchleiferNov 8, 2024
@redfern @european_alternatives What about in-house solutions?
Show threadEuropean AlternativesNov 8, 2024
@PaulSchleifer @redfern I guess that depends on the house πŸ˜‰
Show threadFluffgar 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 HAS MOVEDNov 8, 2024
@redfern @Mojeek search engine. Seems to be based in England.
https://www.mojeek.com/
Mojeek

Mojeek is a web search engine that provides unbiased, fast, and relevant search results combined with a no tracking privacy policy.

Show threadJohn BurnsNov 8, 2024

@redfern @european_alternatives

As a non-EU member citizen... using those services- would I receive the same protections?

πŸ€”

Show threadMarkNov 8, 2024

@redfern @european_alternatives @fabianfett you do know that Europe has data retention laws that FORCE data providers to copy and keep ALL user communications, yes?

The US has no such laws.

However, some companies may use data collected to sell you an antacid, both in Europe and the US.

Show threadbowmannNov 9, 2024

@redfern @european_alternatives

why would you be worried?