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Marco Bresciani Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird
It's been a while I've proudly moved to #FairEmail but I'm thinking to possibly give another chance to @k9mail or Thunderbird.
But I'll wait for it on @fdroidorg.
🤷🏻‍♂️

🐧na|\/|3 Sep 30, 2024

@AAMfP just for clarification @k9mail is going to be @thunderbird. They are merging basically.
https://mastodon.online/@thunderbird/113228582223951150

Thunderbird: Free Your Inbox (@[email protected])

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Our very first blog post explains it pretty well. And since then, we've hired another K-9 Mail developer to the team! https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/06/revealed-thunderbird-on-android-plans-k9/

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@Nickname @AAMfP @k9mail K-9 Mail will be identical to Thunderbird for Android, though it will remain a separately branded app for a while. And we will announce when the Thunderbird for Android Beta is available for our F-Droid users as soon as its ready!

@thunderbird @Nickname @AAMfP @k9mail

meles Oct 3, 2024

No, it has already changed for the worse: "A client ID and various device data (model, manufacturer, CPU, etc.) are requested from the device and transmitted to Mozilla without consent."

https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog/113244847255825664

Mike Kuketz 🛡 (@[email protected])

Es ist schon bemerkenswert, dass K-9 Mail zum beliebtesten Open-Source-E-Mail-Client auf Android geworden ist - ganz ohne Telemetriedaten zu sammeln. Offenbar funktioniert es also auch hervorragend ohne diese Datenerfassung. 🤷‍♂️ #android #thunderbird #datenschutz #tracking #tdddg #dsgvo #mozilla #k9mail

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Klarname Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird mich würde hier ja mal ein ausführlicher Test/Vergleich vom @kuketzblog zu Fair Email interessieren. Früher war K-9 die Empfehlung. Davon bin ich weggegangen, wurde doch aber von #mozilla übernommen bzw. eine Kooperation gegründet, oder?

lj·rk Sep 30, 2024

@d4m13n @thunderbird @kuketzblog Exakt, das hier ist auch genau die gleiche Code Base und K9 wird, kurz über lang, Thunderbird for Android werden. Der K9 Entwickler ist auch genauso weiter beteiligt, und im Repo von Thunderbird steht "formerly known as K9".

@ljrk @d4m13n @kuketzblog Our very first blog post explains it pretty well. And since then, we've hired another K-9 Mail developer to the team! https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/06/revealed-thunderbird-on-android-plans-k9/

Revealed: Our Plans For Thunderbird On Android

We're thrilled to announce our first steps on the road to delivering an outstanding Thunderbird on Android experience.

The Thunderbird Blog

SomeAnoTooter Oct 1, 2024

@thunderbird @ljrk @d4m13n @kuketzblog that's awesome and showing a good way in open source software, that things can also grow together and become one(, while at ever time it could branch out).
Open source is kind of a living thing that always move forward and where pay things hardly can vanish.

twijg Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird Looks great and seems to work great and fast, both for a gmail and a custom domain hosted with #purelymail . The setup of the custom domain seemed more confusing than with Thunderbird on desktop or apps like #fairemail .

@twijg Thanks for trying us and for the feedback! Is there anything specific that made the custom domain setup frustrating, aka what you'd hope to see improved in a future release?

Fredrik Oct 2, 2024

@thunderbird @twijg I experienced the opposite, the setup for my own domain for my own emailserver was a LOT easier on the app than on desktop, nice work :)

lj·rk Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird Switched from K9 Beta to Thunderbird Beta, looks pretty and worked without any trouble, thanks to everyone involved! :)

@ljrk Oh fantastic! We want it to be a smooth transition for our K-9 users, and so thank you for testing it!

Linkinsoldier Oct 1, 2024

@thunderbird @ljrk unfortunately the import of the k9 settings did not work via App for me (no specific error response).

Export and import via file did work.

Is this a known bug?

Pixel 8, latest Android software
K9 mail and Thunderbird are both beta!

f♯ a♯ ∞Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird Noice. Any AI feature in it?

A.B.Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird Got it and 2 major accounts are set up; secondaries will do later. One was not in the database but not difficult to config. Anxious for this and eager to see how it develops, but my heart is with K-9. Congrats!

@andbenn This is great to hear! (And we know that lil robot dog knows how to pull at the heartstrings)

Softwarewolf Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird Awaiting F-Droid release.

@faoluin We'll have another post when F-Droid users get to join the party!

Ning Sun Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird It would be great to have Sync built-in for the first release. This will make mobile onboading super smooth.

@sunng Even if Sync isn't ready (and we're working very hard on getting it ready!) we'll still have a smooth mobile onboarding that will be ready for testing by the first release candidate in about three weeks' time. :)

Nik | Klampfradler 🎸🚲Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird Tried it, and sadly found my expectations confirmed: It's just K-9 Mail with some Thunderbird extras (mainly, a clumsier and less useful UI and general sluggishness).

Nick Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird

Installed the beta from Google Play and migrated from K9. Longer report sent to mailing list.

@ratcatcher Thank you so much! Testing the migration is so important for K-9 users, and we appreciate not only that you're doing this, but also providing detailed information.

Marcin Juszkiewicz 🙃Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird

Hm. That's kind of end of era for me.

K9-Mail was the app which shown me that 800x480px screen can be used better than Maemo does it. So after playing with NITDroid on Nokia N900 l went and bought Nexus S.

Over decade passed. K9-Mail was always on my phone. Still it.

Tb beta migrated settings fine. Folder names in side menu look worse. Probably something to get used to.

Anyway staying with K9-Mail 8beta for now.

qugalet

Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird wow, material you, so cool! export from app didn't work, but it works fine when importing from file

@qugalet We've done a lot of work on Material! Did you have the most recent K-9 Mail beta for the import?

Evan Prodromou Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird I tried it! Works great so far.

@evan Thanks for testing it, and so glad the experience is going well!

Cats Who Draw

Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird I love Thunderbird! I would like to help beta test

@catswhocode Awesome! And it's seriously easy. If you're on F-Droid there's still a little wait, but otherwise follow the blog, come chat with us on Matrix or our mailing list, and let us know if you could get through the testing checklist! (Also, we might be birds who adopted a robot dog, but a lot of Team Thunderbird are cat people!)

Adam Lein Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird I only see a 15 minute poll frequency... does this not support IMAP IDLE yet for push delivery?

@Adam Hey there - I (Monica) don't have an Android device to check this, but this recent post on the K-9 Mail forum might be helpful for troubleshooting this: https://forum.k9mail.app/t/cannot-get-push-notifications-to-work-on-my-inbox-folder/8837/7

Also, we're using all the feedback to help us create FAQs and Getting Started guides on Mozilla Support, and I've added a note we should include Push and Poll settings in said guides.

Cannot get Push notifications to work on my Inbox folder

I think you maybe right… And there appears to be some history here. Found this on a quick search. I am also having difficulty with an @btinternet.com address ( ISP is UK based) Oddly enough my activation email for this forum using this email address never arrives despite repeated requests. I’ve used by backup Gmail address to enrol. Seems BTInternet and K-9 don’t get along nicely in more ways than one 🙂

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Adam Lein Oct 1, 2024

@thunderbird Thanks! I was expecting "push" or "automatic" to be an option in the Polling pop-up menu, but "15 minutes" was the fastest option. The accounts I tried do support push in other email clients, but sometimes it's an option that I have to turn on somewhere when setting up the account.

Patrice-Guy Martin Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird Moved from K9. Imported settings from K9 export file for gmail and posteo accounts. Authenticated both accounts. Seems to be working fine.

@technotrotteur Great to hear!

Mr. Beedell, Roke (RJLB)Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird, it's superb. If only Proton Mail supported unencrypted IMAP and SMTP, I'd use solely this client.

joeld Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird glorious default settings🎉 Now can we have a return to list after delete setting on regular Thunderbird?

@joeld Sounds like a good idea for Mozilla Connect! https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/idb-p/ideas/label-name/thunderbird

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Sarven Capadisli Sep 30, 2024

@thunderbird Thanks for this! Had a bump https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-android/issues/8194 :)

Unable to see all folders, only the Outbox folder shown · Issue #8194 · thunderbird/thunderbird-android

Checklist I have used the search function to see if someone else has already submitted the same bug report. I will describe the problem with as much detail as possible. App version 8.0b1 Where did ...

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@csarven Thanks for reporting this!

Dan Keck Oct 1, 2024

@thunderbird
Can't wait to use it! I tried importing my settings. K-9 Mail is an option, and I select it. But I get this error: "Failed to read settings file." Is there some way I can help troubleshoot this?

nicofrand Oct 1, 2024

@dankeck @thunderbird You need k9 beta , not just the latest k9 version

@nicofrand @dankeck You can get the latest K-9 Mail beta here: https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-android/releases/tag/K9MAIL_8_0b1

Release K-9 Mail 8.0b1 (beta) · thunderbird/thunderbird-android

Features Use [...] for outer subject when encrypting the subject Remove "Move/copy destination folders" setting Remove "Folders to search" setting Remove folder push class to simplify folder notif...

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Dan Keck Oct 1, 2024

@thunderbird
Also, I tried browsing the import screen with Android's screen reader, TalkBack. It mostly worked, except I did not hear a label for the back arrow button at the top. It was just announced as "button" so I didn't know its purpose. Is that something that could be fixed?

@dankeck Thank you for alerting us to this! If you feel comfortable doing so, you can file this as a bug on our GitHub Issues page under 'type: accessibility' https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-android/issues

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Thunderbird for Android – Open Source Email App for Android (fka K-9 Mail) - Issues · thunderbird/thunderbird-android

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Jessie Nabein

Oct 1, 2024

@thunderbird so k9 becomes thunderbird eventually?

but why?

el_haych2024 Oct 1, 2024

@thunderbird @alecaddd animations are a little slower than expected, but adding accounts was faster than it was for K9

@el_haych2024 @alecaddd Thanks for the thoughtful feedback!

melocipede

Oct 1, 2024

@thunderbird testing it now and it seems to be working fine. import from k9 went smooth. I was wondering if we can expect some addons (i.e. quicktext) to be working on mobile too...

as a k9 user I did not notice major changes yet, but that's not a bad thing, on a beta.

looking forward for synching too.

DaAnda Oct 1, 2024

@thunderbird just tried to migrate from k9, import from app did not work (file worked). There already is an older ticket on GitHub, but is it not assigned.
Next thing which is a huge show stopper for me is the missing support for nested and collapsible/expandable IMAP folders. The "folder.subfolder.subsubfolder.foo" workaround is a real deal-breaker, especially when you have 100 folders (incl subfolders). There also already is an existing unassigned ticket for this.

The rest seems fine so far 👍

@DaAnda Thanks for the feedback, and for making it both descriptive and honest. It's good to know what missing features potential users need most, and that can help us prioritize our roadmap.

DaAnda Oct 1, 2024

@thunderbird sorry for being so direct above, had to strip it down due to char limit.
Really looking forward to TB on Android, already love using it on desktop. Thanks for all your hard work.

Ronny Adsetts Oct 1, 2024

@thunderbird will there be support for IMAP shared folders at any point? We use them quite a lot and it's a big limitation not having them visible on my phone.