Jerry 🦙💝🦙Sep 13, 2024
@cR0w best meme I’ve seen today. And I’ve seen a LOT of memes today.
Show thread@infosec_jcp 🐈🃏 done differentlySep 13, 2024

@jerry @cR0w

' the effects can be seen *gestures* .... Downstream. 💦 '

Had a similar run in banking wise a few years ago. Bank ended up getting class actioned & sued also. 👨‍⚖️👩‍⚖️⚖️

One of the many reasons I can't/don't bank, online, ever due to the greylisted market of #CALEAmalware families

☣️ #malware ☣️ #StateSponsoredMalware ☣️

They are total Psychopaths.

They also have names that have been published with full dossiers also.

Show threadKevin Karhan Sep 13, 2024

@infosec_jcp @jerry @cR0w nodds in agreement

I literally made my bank block any banking beyond their onsite terminals and tellers because if they fuck up in #OnlineBanking and my account gets compromised by their fault I'd get shafted legally whereas if their #WindowsXP-based #ATM gets hacked it's their sole problem.

  • And until @BaFin changes the rules to reverse that I'll stick with #OfflineBanking as a matter of principle.

Doesn't change the fact my bank wants to convince even the most #TechIlliterate seniors aged 75+ to use their horrible online banking anyway...

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@kkarhan @infosec_jcp @jerry @cR0w Wow, I guess people like me are just screwed. I'm blind and live in the US in a place that does not have working public transport. Thus *all* of my banking transactions must be digital, as I cannot work with cash nor easily go into a branch. Is a debit card, and I use PayPal wherever possible rather than entering my card details into any old merchant's form. I need to figure out how to get privacy.com or similar set up so I can have throwaway virtual card numbers for the places I can't.
Show threadKevin Karhan Sep 25, 2024

@x0 @infosec_jcp @jerry @cR0w at least you got PayPal and they didn't decide to randomly cancel your account and refuse to say why.

  • Cuz that happens quite often...

I can't and won't use online banking because if the bank fucks up their #ITsec, I'll be the one who gets shafted - unlike with the close-by brick&mortar locations...

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@kkarhan @infosec_jcp @jerry @cR0w Yup, we *must* always be fucked. Kind of like how I actually must use Windows, or perhaps Mac, if I want to have an OS that works for me. Linux accessibility is in a terrible state, especially with Wayland. It is improving though, so maybe in a few years it makes sense to use as a primary without having to constantly maintain any distro of it more than arch to keep it working accessibly.
Show threadKevin Karhan Sep 25, 2024

@x0 @infosec_jcp @jerry @cR0w personally, I do want to get #accessibility better, at least in a #CLI / #TUI.

Show threadKevin Karhan Sep 25, 2024

@x0 @infosec_jcp @jerry @cR0w

Needless to say #Linux & #Android really needs to step up the #accessibility game, cuz #macOS & #iOS currently wipe the floor with everything...

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@kkarhan @infosec_jcp @jerry @cR0w Oh Android has been going in leaps and bounds. As for Linux, while you need hardware for Braille, you don't for screen readers. All you need is a sound card for speech output, screen reading and basically all speech synthesis now are done in software. Which is another reason it's hard to do even if it's accessible, Linux audio is also crap. Orca is the well-known one, Odylia is an up and coming one. TUI? If it's got curses and fancy layouts, it cannot be accessible. Terminals just don't have the semantics to tell the reader something is a table, and it's just going to read out lines as they appear or change, and let you review. All other layout is lost.
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@kkarhan @infosec_jcp @jerry @cR0w There are terminal-specific screen readers, Speakup is ancient and difficult to use now but might work, and a blind dev has also made TDSR. If you use Emacs, Emacspeak is actively maintained and good. By difficult to use now I don't mean in terms of its commands, I mean actually getting it running, it was supposed to be a kernel module.
Show threadKevin Karhan Sep 25, 2024
@x0 @infosec_jcp personally, I do wounder if there is some sort-of #TTS solution that can just accept a #TTY- or #serial port (i.e. RS-232 @ 9600/8/N/1) and offer TTS output and basic controls so users can blindly navigate #CLI & #TUI apps like #midnightCommander & #LynxBrowser...
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@kkarhan @infosec_jcp Those used to exist, hardware synthesizers, and speakup provided the controls. In the DOS days blind people would literally just send the terminal output to the synth over serial port, but doing that means there is no nav. Some Linux people may have done that too, but RIP to ANSI escape codes. Unsure if midnight commander is accessible as TUI, anything with a multi-column/pane layout isn't, really. Screen readers can't actually detect cursor movement, they can only detect changes in the terminal, and then if it'sa small change they try to only announce the context. So if a pointer at the left of a line moves, it might be able to track that. This is why we can't easily use vi/vim. I know someone who swears by edbrowse, though.
Show threadKevin Karhan Sep 25, 2024

@x0 @infosec_jcp Thanks for these vital insights!

I wished there was like a simple & affordable solution that basically provides a #VT100-Style #Terminal with #Braillescreen and #TTS for easy navigation and an #accessibile interface.

The problem is that #accessibility isn't made #mandazory nor provided for free of charge...

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@kkarhan @infosec_jcp Trick. There is no such thing as braille screen. I don't know what you're trying to say there. Do you mean Braille display? Or the more complete refreshable Braille display, which is a device that uses various effects, most often piezoelectric crystals, to raise and lower dots in one, or recently more, lines to display Braille?
Sep 25, 2024 at 6:56pmWeb
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@kkarhan @infosec_jcp TTS solutions are free, some of them anyway, and the accessibility of text is arguably simpler than the accessibility of full GUIs, much less the web. The issue there is highlighted in the difference between the terms CUI and TUI. A TUI tries to be a fake GUI using only text mode commands with fancy ANSI commands and all kinds of hackery, and it's that which falls completely apart accessibility wise. At least with TTS. If one had a Braille display big enough to display the contents of the entire terminal and had additional dots to indicate the cursor, Braille might actually be an easier means of doing something like that, assuming a Braille code that maps one character per cell, so-called computer Braille codes. It's just color indicators you'd lose, but you will always lose those.