Accurate definition of AI initiatives expressed as a chiasmus:

#generativeAI #ai #technology

@bsletten TIL the word "chiasmus" ! Thanks !
@draNgNon It’s a great word and you’ll start seeing them more often now.
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Truly it is, and looking forward to getting Baader–Meinhoffed wrt it.

@bsletten This seems to be a good copy/pasta here and there, find here a capture on imgur that describe it the same way if not, with a bit more explanations.

Something something Jackpot (if you have read The Peripheral)

@bsletten Except it’s not a definition of AI, a 60 year old branch of computer science that has produced many useful things. It’s a lazy attempt to demonize an entire field because of one subset of one branch of that field.

It is an excellent example of how social media is used to strip nuance and context in pursuit of rage response.

@MartyFouts Which is why I framed it as AI initiatives and not AI. How it is used, not what it is. Don’t be so eager to make a point that you miss it.

Reading is fundamental.

@bsletten Except you quoted a definition that doesn’t do that; claiming that it was a good definition when it is not. But even “AI initiatives” is over generalized.
@MartyFouts @bsletten You should complain to the person on Twitter who did the quote-tweet, then.
@timmc @bsletten Why should I not complain to the person on Mastodon who also did a quote and who reinforced the claim that it’s a good definition?

@MartyFouts Because they never made the claim that the original poster claimed to be defining AI initiatives. They instead made a claim about the supplied definition itself.

It really seems like you just want to fight. I don't get it.

[EDIT: OK, looking at your profile... this is just how you are.]

@MartyFouts @bsletten you're right about the science/knowledge field, but GenAI is surely more than 95% of the interest, funding and comma around AI at the moment.. Be nice if it doesn't stay that way..

@naught101 @bsletten Public interest, certainly; and reported funding apparently; but because of how vocal the hype is, it is hard to judge the percentage of research interest and overall AI funding.

Most of the 70 or so companies doing driving automation research are not using generative models but none are talking about how much money they spend for example.

@bsletten as I already replied once to the same post, possibly true, but the means is wrong, since the only thing AI can do is imitation, and therefore nothing new can come out of it, whether new knowledge or new art. If then one goes and checks how purposefully biased many of the publications with the basic methods used are, it becomes anguishing that so many people believe AI is the magic of the future.
@paraw Nobody said anything about magic AI, they were commenting on the intent of those wielding it. But at least you’ve commented about the point you’re trying to make twice now.
@bsletten you are, of course, correct. My comment was intended to be at least partly optimistic, pointing out that, IMPO, the people wielding it are quite likely to fail. The rest was my annoyance directed towards a large chunk of people, including (highly) educated ones, who feel and behave that way. Please note that it was neither directed to you nor an attempt to sway the discussion elsewhere.
everything is like this when we fight for power
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also, artificial intelligence is for the poor, same as artificial grass and artificial crabmeat 🤮
@bsletten "AI is nothing but normal capitalism" would be even more succinct
@bsletten yes *and* LLMs are fit neither for *use* nor for *purposes*
@bsletten AI might as well be new guns and knives. It's the people who control them that are bad.
@bsletten AI allows wealth to access AND APPROPRIATE (steal) skill . . .
@bsletten A word I haven't seen since grad school.
@mikeloukides As you know, a good writer needs a good audience. Thanks for getting it. 😁
@bsletten AI is what it's called now but the phenomenon itself is at least as old as mechanisation
@bsletten AI let's the people in charge tell computers how to do things, so that they don't have to pay those pesky employees to do do them ( I've seen middle managers become programmers and data analyst in 2weeks)

@bsletten huh, a twitter screenshot of a mastodon screenshot. You don't see that everyday

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