Rahul RachuriSep 21, 2024
Marco Arment

The parade of auto-opted-in services promos and interruptions continues.

Got this sports banner interrupting me last night on my brand new iPhone.

Apparently Sports.app opted itself into Live Activities, despite not having them enabled on the old phone, and having *never even launched the app* on the new one.

Sep 21, 2024 at 3:11pmIvory for Mac
Show threadChancerubbageSep 21, 2024

@marcoarment it seems to be Apples new method of insuring we know about all the features they have been adding.

And it kind of Stinks.

Now we have to opt out of all that automated interoptibility we may never have cared for, rather than opting in.

Show threadKarl BaronSep 22, 2024
@Chancerubbage @marcoarment Just think about the poor middle manager at Apple who has some KPIs to hit!!
Show threadLars Wikman (OLD, find new)Sep 21, 2024
@marcoarment never having launched it means you must not know about it and we need to rectify that!
Show threadNickSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment meanwhile since updating to iOS18 I can’t get the sports notifications I actively want to use to work. They just… stop. 🤷‍♂️
Show threadJoefrey Kibuule, MDSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment “The power of defaults”
Show threadRyan ScullenSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment there has to be tester / builder personal settings built into the OS. Why Apple would risk anticompetitive action at this stage doesn’t make sense. It’s likely gotten so complex and near impossible to blank these personal preferences within the master image.
Show threadJonathan DechkoSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment It’s the universe trying to get you to care about sports.
Show threadJoe RodricksSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment they’ve called you 47 times to ask for your consent.
Show threadDavid LevineSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment The fact that the screenshot shows 9:41 is not lost on me.
Show threadMarco ArmentSep 21, 2024
@ddlevine Total coincidence, but me too!
Show threadJoel LeBlancSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment I think it is just broken code. I’ve been filing feedbacks against defaults not holding within Springboard all summer. Stupid stuff too, like icon light/dark settings.
Show threadDNSSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment It wont even give you the correct scores. I told everyone that Brentford had gone 1-2 up against Spurs today, which it turns out was nonsense. That’s table stakes for a sports scoring App.
Show threadJoel LeBlancSep 21, 2024

@marcoarment I should have mentioned, lots of *really* important settings appear to also be messed uo 🤪

https://mjtsai.com/blog/2024/09/18/macos-firewall-regressions-in-sequoia/

Michael Tsai - Blog - macOS Firewall Regressions in Sequoia

Show threadJohn SiracusaSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment I swear I deleted all my teams and leagues (and disabled live activities) long ago on my old phone. On my new phone, live activities were re-enabled *and* my old teams/leagues reappeared (probably due to sync bugs, not malice).
Show threadMattSep 21, 2024
@siracusa @marcoarment Also had some notification weirdness with this years transfer. Mail re-enabled notifications. I’ve had those badges off through a decade of transfers! Also lost my CarPlay app orders/settings and had to re-configure some Home controls in control centre.
Show threadDan SturmSep 21, 2024

@siracusa @marcoarment

Did someone say sports sync bugs?

https://duck.haus/@dan/112776664778996353

Dan Sturm (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 video Time is a flat circle.

duck.haus
Show threadRudyJR13Sep 21, 2024
@siracusa @marcoarment meanwhile for those of us who care about the local sports team, this feature is wonderful
Show threadEric WortmanSep 23, 2024
@siracusa @marcoarment I suddenly had notifications enabled on shared calendars and shared reminders that were previously off.
Show threadPatrickSep 23, 2024
@siracusa @marcoarment Could be that when resolving conflicts, it prefers the set with data to the set without.
Show threadDavid SchlaepferSep 21, 2024

@marcoarment Isn’t the sports live activity technically run out of the TV app?

Edit: oh nevermind, looks like they just changed it with iOS 18. Now run out of Sports.

Show threadGreg ThompsonSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment still have an eye popping 47 badge on the phone app 😂😂😂
Show threadPeter ChristensenSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment Very weird. On my IPhone 15 pro, the Sports app asked for permission to enable live activities.
Show threadRob NeeSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment it feels like this is in lieu of promoting their products in traditional forums. In the iPod age it felt like Apple aggressivelike promoted their products. Now it feels like they don't think they have to to the detriment of those products and platforms.
Show threadChristopherSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment This is interesting my experience was almost opposite. I did have live activities for the Red Sox games through the TV app and with the new phone they were disabled and I needed to manually set it in Sports.
Show threadMax LeibmanSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment
Show threadJackaninnySep 21, 2024

@marcoarment Live activities worked before the Sports app if you had favorited a sports team in Apple TV+. I’m pretty sure they used that as the test bed for live activities in the Sports app across the board.

Also noting I had it all turned on and accepted prior to iOS 18 and new device and was promoted to allow it again.

Show threadJackaninnySep 21, 2024
@marcoarment more important though are those missed calls or voicemails?!?
Show threadRandy ClaytonSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment weird. I’ve opted in previously and when I upgraded to iOS 18 it asked me if I wanted to continue to get live scores. Bug maybe?
Show threadAlex RosenbergSep 21, 2024
@marcoarment Surely everybody loves sportsball as much as Eddy Cue! Think of it like a certain U2 album….
Show threadintherepairshopSep 22, 2024
@marcoarment also happening on my 13 mini… but live activities on the MLB doesn’t ever update so as a Yankee fan I was glad it popped up even though I haven’t opened the app since it launched 😂
Show threadFreediverXSep 22, 2024
@marcoarment
TIL Apple has a “Sports” app. Either I deleted it and forgot or the app has never been installed on my phone automatically.
Show threadS★m V★rm★Sep 22, 2024
@marcoarment It's not installed on my 16 pro max, out of the box at least
Show threadTimo GrünSep 22, 2024
@marcoarment
Our digital world is increasingly like the Strip in a tourist trap town with one tout after another tugging at your sleeve.