VeeI keep telling all my friends in the US. You don't ask you don't get.
run_atalanta -> beige.party@VeroniqueB99 The French have had some of the best revolutions.
Thom.@run_atalanta Indeed! In fact they're overdue for one! š¤£š¤£š¤£
Dan Herbert@VeroniqueB99 This story in this post sounds dubious. I was recently laid off in California so I know from experience that CA labor laws require 60 days notice, among other things.
Big Kumera Energy@danherbert @VeroniqueB99 the WARN act? I think that's only for some employers, and only when there's more than 50 terminations in a month. There's a bunch of exceptions.
@depereo Yeah, there are exceptions but the story says it's a multinational fortune 500 company so I'm assuming a lot of those exceptions don't apply given the context. A lot of those exceptions also make it cheaper to just comply with the WARN act than fit layoffs into the narrow exceptions to avoid them.
Ishan@danherbert @VeroniqueB99 I am also in California and my understanding is that CA law only applies to companies with 75+ impacted employees: https://edd.ca.gov/en/jobs_and_training/layoff_services_warn
That could be one difference?
Beeks@danherbert @VeroniqueB99 I'm sorry Dan but you don't strictly believe the accuracy of this screenshot of an undated, zero context reddit post by an anonymous redditor shared by an anonymous Mastodon account that spends all day every day just reposting other people's content for attention?
Is there no trust left in this world?
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Marcos Dione@danherbert @VeroniqueB99 at least the French side I can co firm. It happened to me twice in the last year and a half. They're also forced to pay you a lay off package based on how long you've been on the company, IRRC, 1 salary per worked yar. Also any vacation days you didn't take, which by law is 25 working days or more. Both my contracts, based on union contracts, didn't have vacation time but working days (220), leaving around 40 working days of vacation per year.
Pete Prodoehl š@VeroniqueB99 Have you met the militarized police here in the states?
Andreas K@rasterweb @VeroniqueB99 Have you met the French military that is openly used to police French cities nowadays? With automatic weapons.
Doesn't keep the French from expressing their opinion. š¤·
Tuttu@yacc143 @rasterweb @VeroniqueB99 That's not completely true. The French military is used in cities only as an anti-terrorism force. They are used as a dissuasion force and DO NO intervene in day-to-day actions.
Mava@Tuttu @yacc143 @rasterweb @VeroniqueB99 they don't need to, the police uses military grade weapons on civilians without the need of the army, for instance during the riot at Saint Soline in March 2023
Ludovic Archivist Lagouardette@Tuttu @yacc143 @rasterweb @VeroniqueB99
Yeah, we still risk to get tear gas grenades to our face, or rubber balls to our face, or a hit with a telescopic baton to the face. A few people die during protests every year, a bunch more become blind or disfigured.
But we put the fear of God into our politicians when someone crashes through the door of L'Elysee (our equivalent of the White House) with a forklift, which is pretty good
eyajpng@yacc143 @rasterweb @VeroniqueB99 nah, this is a horrible take. US has more cops per capita, better funded cops per capita, and more people in prison per capita than franceā¦ (1/2)
and it STILL doesnāt keep us from expressing our opinion. we riot and fight cops a lot here? has nobody been paying attention? we had one of the biggest anti-police uprising in global history just a few years ago? we didnāt get six months severance pay, instead the most progressive and liberal political party decided to increase funding for the cops across the board and theyāve been murdering us at an even higher rate than before we rioted (2/2)
Riley S. Faelan@yacc143 France is one of these countries where militarised police, the gendarmerie, is an ordinary thing, not a special thing. If you have heard of Italy's carabinieri, it's kind of like that.
The trick is that in France, there's also civilian, unarmed, police, doing most common police things, especially in the cities. In USA, all police gangs behave like they're the gendarbinieri.
Alfred M. Szmidt@riley > In USA, all police gangs behave like they're the gendarbinieri.
Total and and utter bullshit nonsense.
@amszmidt You're telling me USA has a police gang that doesn't carry its guns daily?
Because that's a major distinguishing factor in European police, in countries that have two separate systems: gendarmerie is ordinarily armed, civilian police is not.
š§DaveNullš§ ā£ļøpResident Evilā£>> unarmed, police, doing most common police things, especially in the cities
Used to be true LOOONG ago. Not anymore, not since Sarkozy armed municipal police. And after sarkozy, things got worse and police kill even more than beforeā¦
More "recently" (the last 7 years) things escalated very badly. During protests but also because trigger-happy far-right voting cops have now access to even more weapons and kill people just becauseā¦
A cop killed a brown kid. Not only the murderer has been protected, but he has earned 1 Million ā¬URO from the racist bourgeoisie, on a donation plateformā¦
People rioted to protest against this shit, so the "centrists" (far right ass lickers) in power usedā¦ the RAID (anti terrorist police) against protestersā¦ who killed other peopleā¦
It's time for a revolution. But this time, not a bourgeoisie revolution against the nobility.
It's more than time for a proletariat revolution against the fascist bourgeoisie.
I can't tell if the USA is worse or no, but France is looking more and more like USAā¦ in terms of social regression and human rightsā¦
@riley By the way, there's isnt much of a difference between gendarmerie and cops when it comes to using weapons and violence. Both carry weapons, both have many far-right voters, both are violent and both are aggressive toward leftist protesters and environmentalistsā¦
The only difference is: The gendarmerie is military. And police is not, but is still militirizedā¦
@devnull @riley @yacc143 @rasterweb @VeroniqueB99
Gendarmerie tends to be more disciplined and less trigger happy around here. During protests they mostly come in and talk to people and just ask that if we see someone breaking things, we should report them and keep tabs on them. Police never goes to protests without full body armor and faceshields. Gendarmerie show up the same for a car crash and a protest unless something crazy is happening
@devnull @riley @yacc143 @rasterweb A cop killed ONE brown kid. And the riots almost shut down the country and the army was almost in the streets. In the US cops kill dozens of black/brown kids daily.
France is a paradise where people think they're in hell. The US is (not quite but well on its way) hell where people think they're in paradise.
@VeroniqueB99 Not really: They killed one MORE brown kid. They killed more than 1ā¦ They've been killing brown, black and arab kids for decadesā¦ Not to mention the deaths and injuries during yellow vests protests since 2018ā¦
People had enoughā¦ especially since the murderer cop has received donations, total of 1 fucking million ā¬
In some regions, there was RAID armored vehicles in the streetsā¦ And there has been multiple people sent to coma because trigger-happy copsā¦
@VeroniqueB99 couldn't help but shoot at people to show them who is in chargeā¦
So in a way, it IS like having the army in the streetsā¦
More than 580 people have been arrested and immediately trialed (not given a chance to prepare their defense), 400 of which went to prisonā¦ Immediate trial is a common thing against protestersā¦
And that's not to mention all the rest. How cops build up false accusations against protesters and brown kids, how they threaten them. [ā¦]
@VeroniqueB99 [ā¦] or how the president have hijacked the latests electrions' resulted. First delaying things "because of the Olympics games", and then ignoring the elections results to name a right-wing reactionary asshole as prime sinisterā¦ The president caused these early elections in order to give more power tovthe far-right wingā¦
This is certainly not "Paradise".
Since 2018 protests, many people have been imprisoned and/or lost an eye/hand/hearingā¦
@VeroniqueB99 Plus multiple deathsā¦ We don't have gang wars but we have many violent cops protected by the IGPN, and far-right militias protected by copsā¦
For the rest, maybe US people should wake up and cease buying into the "greatest democracy in the world" kind of nationalist bullshitā¦ Which is USA favorite excuse to justify colonization, war crimes, kidnapping and torturing people to obtain confessions, and tindefinite detentionā¦ But yeah, USA is a democracyā¦
@devnull ...I do agree with your 2nd paragraph there.
I suggest you go live in the US then tell me about it. How long have you lived abroad (anywhere)? In order to claim 'more' or 'less' you have to have both perspectives... yours is severely skewed.
@devnull y but nowhere near the numbers they kill in the US. Deaths/injuries during protests are vasly different than a kid playin in a park shot like it's open season.... sorry but vastly different in France vs the US.
@VeroniqueB99 I'm not saying it's the same. I'm just saying: In terms of political abuse and police violence, France is not as nice as the French, billionaire-owned media outlet, pretend it is.
Yes it's different. But it's far from Paradise and things are getting worse. Police violence is limited to protests only IF it's white people. For all others, cops find their waysā¦
As far as I'm concerned, cops are a nuisance, no matter what flag they wear on their shoulderā¦