Last year the NYPD spent $150 Million to catch people who weren't able to afford to pay the subway fare. They collectively owed just $104,000 in fares.
Instead of funding cops to shoot people, why not use the money to make public transport free for people who can't afford it?
https://hellgatenyc.com/the-nypd-spent-150-million-to-catch-farebeaters-who-cost-the-mta-104000/
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But if we didn't punish people for being poor, how will i know I'm a better person for having money?
@mister914 @luckytran they don't do this for parking tickets, though, do they? Seems like shooting at people because of fines or other minor offenses is perhaps a little bit much.
Imagine if they chased down and beat/shot jaywalkers? Yea. It's the same thing.
There's such a thing as a "proportionate response" and this isn't that.
@draeath @luckytran it should be free, but that's not the policy.
Today, the Quebec government wants to cut train services due to lack of riders. The government will cut the service if the revenues drop.
@draeath @luckytran I hope violence is the minority of enforcement interactions.
When I rode the trains daily, I saw people ticketed, but never saw someone run or get physically involved with the officers.
@luckytran Important to point out that "fare evasion" is a common topic of discussion at MTA board meetings.
The real evaders are drivers, who found a champion when Governor Hochul illegally refused to start charging them for a portion of the cost of accommodating the oversized easy chairs they insist on bringing into Manhattan.
https://new.mta.info/press-release/mta-announces-progress-reducing-subway-fare-evasion
@AccordionBruce @luckytran I could actually imagine it happening, especially if the driver isn't white...
Governor Hochul announced that law enforcement have impounded 1,540 vehicles, made 339 arrests and issued 12,007 summonses.
@luckytran Because NYC (even absent all the corruption and grift taking good money from providing transport) doesn't have enough money for all the service it needs to run. Most people can afford to pay a small fare and would prefer better service to a free ride. It is only a minority that cannot afford fares (likely most of those the MTA caught could afford a fare) and need help - we should help them, but the vast majority of people would be better off if their money went to better service. The world would be better off too if fares went to better service - how many people would give up their car if service was better (hint a lot more than would give up their car for free fares)
In Germany, we know this problem very well:
The same nonsense.
Because there would be no profit to be found in that for the rich caste.
I know I have come to this late , but what the fuck are police doing at train stations in the first place
Are the travellers using the subways in NYC such a lawless bunch that armed guards are required.
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@luckytran That's insane. Most transit agencies who do charge spend way less on enforcement because there are diminishing returns. Rather than just throw stupid amounts at the NYPD, use the money to lower fares or make them free. Or even just improve things, $150m would go a long way renovating stations to be cleaner
If fares must be collected tap in tap out would probably have the same effect, be a one off cost, defund the NYPD and most importantly stop the NYPD shooting people for a $3 fare
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