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Elias Probst Sep 17, 2024

Thank you @EUCommission!

European Commission Sep 18, 2024

Hi @eliasp thank you for your support!

Kuchenschwarte Sep 17, 2024

@EUCommission
snappy swedes panicking about their snus in 3-2-1...

older Sep 17, 2024

@Kuchenschwarte
But snus is smoke-free already!
@EUCommission

Pascal Leinert Sep 17, 2024

@EUCommission While I support the ban of consumption in public places, it still should be an individuals own choice to consume such products or not, even if it means that they harm themselves.

Thibaultmol 🌈Sep 17, 2024

@pasci_lei @EUCommission that's part of the problem though.... Just being near someone who is smoking means that you're also inhaling that smoke.

It's not that simple

Garrett LeSage Sep 17, 2024

@thibaultmol @pasci_lei @EUCommission 💯 agree.

Also, for those of us who are highly allergic to cigarette smoke, it means we often can't eat at restaurants (outside especially, but even inside when they have a door or window open) or participate in public in other ways when someone lights up nearby (and it travels quite a bit further than most people realize).

Additionally, people smoke around public transit stops, hospitals, etc., making those problematic too.

@thibaultmol @pasci_lei @EUCommission Did someone glued or welded you to such person? You can always go else where and be happy. Don't you? No one is forcing you to stand there. That's very simple.

@MartinBe Depending on where you're standing, it's hard to be out of the smoke zone.
Definitely if there's only one roof to stand under while you're waiting for a bus or train for example.

@thibaultmol On every bus or train stop in entire Europe or US, Canada and many other countries smoking is totally forbidden. And there always is a possibility to go away if the situation is not acceptable, not wanted by someone etc. Standing place that's not an excuse. Sorry.

@MartinBe
- it's forbidden on the platform but you still have to pass by the cloud of smoke as you enter/leave the station because they're all standing there now
- People still smoke on platforms even though it's forbidden. Just less than before.
- If you have breathing problems and smoke easily triggers you're asthma then it'd like to see you say that those people's faces....

@MartinBe
- Once again: if you're standing under a roof to prevent get drenched by the rain and the person/people standing next to your are smoking and you can't handle smoke because of asthma or something else.. you have a real problem.

You sound very ableist right now...

@thibaultmol No my Dear, I am just very realistic person. Even am medi PhD one. And your argumentation is totally unreal.
You're not a slave, you can go else where and especially if you are an active asthma patient. Your MD does not tell you that walking in the rain can even kill you? Well.. sorry about that too. No further questions I have.

@MartinBe Why doesn't the person smoking stand in the rain then?!
Talking to a privileged person it seems.

So you're saying the person smoking can block off the roof during rain and anyone who can't handle smoke has to stand in the rain?

oaktree Sep 17, 2024

@pasci_lei @EUCommission Unfortunately, cigarette nuisances, and especially cancer are not an individual cost, but a large financial burden put on the whole of society.
Also cigarettes create a dependency so free choice is an illusion once you get hooked.
Coincidentally, this weekend I had a chat with a smoker in his 20's: he agreed that he should stop, tried but failed *in spite of his dad having died from it* 😨
Some things need to be regulated out.

Christian Schneider Sep 17, 2024

@pasci_lei @EUCommission Fuck, Ich dachte im Fediverse ist man sicher vor FDPlern

elgregor Sep 18, 2024

@pasci_lei @EUCommission If it didn't affect other people, then yes. But it does affect other people because of public health insurance. The more money is spent on treating diseases caused by smoke, the less money is available for treating everything else.

Kenner Sep 17, 2024

@EUCommission your ad is missing the point by ten years, the new generation consume Tabaco via colourful, tasteful and highly unregulated "Vapes", usually imported from outside the EU.
Update your image and target school children.
Also make it harder to acquire and use it in public places.

This is coming from an individual that is part of a Brazilian Tabaco free generation.

Matija Nalis Sep 17, 2024

@kennergf
Yes... but have you read the post or just looked at the picture? They are aware, and that is exactly what they are saying they WANT to do: "We are recommending that EU countries extend smoke-free environment policies to electronic cigarettes and other new products".
I agree with that recommendation, but in needs to be accepted by EU member countries before it can be put into practice. @EUCommission

@kennergf @EUCommission e-vapes are NOT tobacco, some may contain nicotin, but nicotin is anyway not the dangerous cancerogen stuff found in tobacco.
Vaping should clearly not be promoted but in matter of public health this is an order of magnitude less concerning than actual tobacco.

@Leuenberg isn’t it addictive?

@GuillaumeRossolini Yes it is ! Nicotin is a powerful addictive and the major psychoactive substance in tobacco. And obviously the only reason people would continue burning their lungs with smoke...

@Leuenberg and other people’s along with their own, which was certainly the focus of the proposal

I’m not sure why you are disagreeing then?

@GuillaumeRossolini I'm just disagreeing with the assertion that vaping is "consumming tobacco" which is not only factually incorrect but also a very small risk compared to smoking tobacco.

@Leuenberg I’m sometimes ok with over simplifying the messaging 🤷‍♀️ perhaps this is one of those cases where conflating the two notions doesn’t hurt

@GuillaumeRossolini Public health policies should always be risk-based. By conflating two issues with extremely different risks profiles we lose one of the main benefits of vaping : helping smokers quit.
This is why my reply was not to the OP (EU) which correctly target smoking, but to a person who was conflating both issues.

@Leuenberg fair enough, though I disagree (to a point)

Felix Suplex Sep 17, 2024

@EUCommission Geil rauchen!

@EUCommission

How about mandating that people should breathe out their smoke 5 meters away from the enclosed space, or something, to avoid them stepping into the bus while exhaling their smoke?

And in the same spirit, how about creating a smoke free bubble around the path into enclosed areas? Think a café where non smokers have to wade between tables of smokers to get inside, and possibly walking through a closed terrace

Stefan Sep 17, 2024

@EUCommission

And I am for "piss-free" water. Where only 5% of the water is piss...

ubinull Sep 17, 2024

@EUCommission The bigger problem is the lack of enforcement. The same police officer is supposed to prevent the dinner ladies smoking near the school's entrance for example, who smokes in the same bus stop after work, where the school bus stops.

mirabilos Sep 17, 2024

@ubinull @EUCommission yeah, or train company employees who’re supposed to enforce that…

Julian Andres Klode 🏳️‍🌈Sep 17, 2024

@EUCommission Should also ban the sale of cigarettes to people born after 2010, such that that generation never becomes smokers in the first place.

mirabilos Sep 17, 2024

@EUCommission and train, tram and bus stops!

Aurin Azadî Sep 17, 2024

@EUCommission But at least in Germany only where these areas are controlled. Just seen some folks smoking on train stations, and not in the marked areas, but wherever they wanted, and nobody took care.

Six dots software Sep 17, 2024

@EUCommission This is a good idea. But not enough exercise, alcohol and wrong diet also contributes to this factor. :)

mr brown

Sep 17, 2024

@EUCommission yeah, sounds great! but, wait, smoking weed is good isn't it? it is so liberal, right?

#stopcannabis #nosmoking

🇺🇦 Dany Sep 18, 2024

@EUCommission that's why you gave a vice presidency to the best friend of the one who is payed from tobacco lobbyists in order to not go against the tobacco industry in Italy. Sounds like a good plan.

Out of Control

🇨🇦Sep 18, 2024

@EUCommission Shocking–not–that tobacco hasn’t been outlawed by now. Other drugs are.

@EUCommission Adult people are adult enough to decide by themselves and on and for themselves. So stop discriminate people with your stupid ideas. Just because something looks "trendy" it does not mean that forcing people for that is necessary and all right! This "political correctness" of yours just makes lots of people want to vomit.
Don't want it? Don't do it! But don't force others to your only things and ideologies. That's not lawful. Don't stick your EU fingers into someone elses garden!