European CommissionSep 17, 2024

✔ For a Tobacco-Free Generation by 2040.

We are recommending that EU countries extend smoke-free environment policies to electronic cigarettes and other new products like heated tobacco.

Also, smoke-free environments should cover outdoor recreational areas such as public playgrounds, amusement parks and swimming pools.

These measures will protect people, especially children, from the effects of second-hand smoke.

More ➡ https://europa.eu/!4HPPXn

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Show threadPascal Leinert
@EUCommission While I support the ban of consumption in public places, it still should be an individuals own choice to consume such products or not, even if it means that they harm themselves.
Sep 17, 2024 at 2:14pmWeb
Show threadThibaultmol 🌈Sep 17, 2024

@pasci_lei @EUCommission that's part of the problem though.... Just being near someone who is smoking means that you're also inhaling that smoke.

It's not that simple

Show threadGarrett LeSageSep 17, 2024

@thibaultmol @pasci_lei @EUCommission 💯 agree.

Also, for those of us who are highly allergic to cigarette smoke, it means we often can't eat at restaurants (outside especially, but even inside when they have a door or window open) or participate in public in other ways when someone lights up nearby (and it travels quite a bit further than most people realize).

Additionally, people smoke around public transit stops, hospitals, etc., making those problematic too.

Show threadMartin BeSep 19, 2024
@thibaultmol @pasci_lei @EUCommission Did someone glued or welded you to such person? You can always go else where and be happy. Don't you? No one is forcing you to stand there. That's very simple.
Show threadThibaultmol 🌈Sep 19, 2024
@MartinBe Depending on where you're standing, it's hard to be out of the smoke zone.
Definitely if there's only one roof to stand under while you're waiting for a bus or train for example.
Show threadMartin BeSep 19, 2024
@thibaultmol On every bus or train stop in entire Europe or US, Canada and many other countries smoking is totally forbidden. And there always is a possibility to go away if the situation is not acceptable, not wanted by someone etc. Standing place that's not an excuse. Sorry.
Show threadThibaultmol 🌈Sep 19, 2024
@MartinBe
- it's forbidden on the platform but you still have to pass by the cloud of smoke as you enter/leave the station because they're all standing there now
- People still smoke on platforms even though it's forbidden. Just less than before.
- If you have breathing problems and smoke easily triggers you're asthma then it'd like to see you say that those people's faces....
Show threadThibaultmol 🌈Sep 19, 2024

@MartinBe
- Once again: if you're standing under a roof to prevent get drenched by the rain and the person/people standing next to your are smoking and you can't handle smoke because of asthma or something else.. you have a real problem.

You sound very ableist right now...

Show threadMartin BeSep 19, 2024
@thibaultmol No my Dear, I am just very realistic person. Even am medi PhD one. And your argumentation is totally unreal.
You're not a slave, you can go else where and especially if you are an active asthma patient. Your MD does not tell you that walking in the rain can even kill you? Well.. sorry about that too. No further questions I have.
Show threadThibaultmol 🌈Sep 19, 2024

@MartinBe Why doesn't the person smoking stand in the rain then?!
Talking to a privileged person it seems.

So you're saying the person smoking can block off the roof during rain and anyone who can't handle smoke has to stand in the rain?

Show threadoaktreeSep 17, 2024
@pasci_lei @EUCommission Unfortunately, cigarette nuisances, and especially cancer are not an individual cost, but a large financial burden put on the whole of society.
Also cigarettes create a dependency so free choice is an illusion once you get hooked.
Coincidentally, this weekend I had a chat with a smoker in his 20's: he agreed that he should stop, tried but failed *in spite of his dad having died from it* 😨
Some things need to be regulated out.
Show threadChristian SchneiderSep 17, 2024
@pasci_lei @EUCommission Fuck, Ich dachte im Fediverse ist man sicher vor FDPlern
Show threadelgregorSep 18, 2024
@pasci_lei @EUCommission If it didn't affect other people, then yes. But it does affect other people because of public health insurance. The more money is spent on treating diseases caused by smoke, the less money is available for treating everything else.