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Shoshana 🏳️⚧️Cybertruck putting out 120V through its body and wheels while charging 🤦🏻♀️
What an insanely poorly made vehicle
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kira :3@LilahTovMoon uHHHHH???
Christian Gudrian@LilahTovMoon That's why it's not gonna make it here in Germany. We're running on 230V.
das_menschy@cgudrian @LilahTovMoon don't mix up static electricity / direct current (like in the video, 120V) with alternating current (230V in Germany and many other countries).
『 Woozen Fristi 』@das_menschy @cgudrian @LilahTovMoon if it's 120V, he's likely measuring the voltage from the mains, which is AC. The difference really is in voltage and frequency (120V@60hz vs 230V@50hz). Only the part after an AC/DC transformer will be DC, which will likely have a different voltage.
adorfer@cgudrian @LilahTovMoon
It will not happen here, since wallboxes here have to contain RCD ("FI"). And it has to have detection for ground faults too.
in other words: Even if it's not an issue with the electric system of the house (e.g. N and L reversed), even if it's a fault inside the the car, the wallbox should detect the issue and shut down... the very latest at the point of human contact to the chassis.
It will not happen here, since wallboxes here have to contain RCD ("FI"). And it has to have detection for ground faults too.
in other words: Even if it's not an issue with the electric system of the house (e.g. N and L reversed), even if it's a fault inside the the car, the wallbox should detect the issue and shut down... the very latest at the point of human contact to the chassis.
Rhyme Repartee@rhymerepartee @cgudrian @LilahTovMoon RCD/GFCI/RCCB... every country uses a different acronym.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residual-current_device
a cybertruck certainly is a very stupid car on so many levels. Nevertheless, the shown charging issue is most certain a fault of the wallbox or the installation at this home.
Scott Williams 🐧@adorfer @rhymerepartee @cgudrian @LilahTovMoon Ah, GFCI. Yeah, it's not required everywhere here (in the US). The main places where it is are outlets for kitchen appliances and hair dryers, but it is getting more common for them to be in other places of the house.
@vwbusguy @rhymerepartee @cgudrian @LilahTovMoon the GFCI is an essential part of the wallbox (or "mobile charging cable"). this is basically why it's so bulky, even the "dumb ones".
so even if you don't have any in the house (or have already one): The GFCI inside the wallbox in mandantory, since it's a "better one". it has to be able not only to detect AC faults, but DC fault and DC arcing too. (in case of an issue with the powerbank-chargers in the car, feeding back DC to the house.)
so even if you don't have any in the house (or have already one): The GFCI inside the wallbox in mandantory, since it's a "better one". it has to be able not only to detect AC faults, but DC fault and DC arcing too. (in case of an issue with the powerbank-chargers in the car, feeding back DC to the house.)
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Knud JahnkeReason number ... ~12?
Cat 🐈🥗 (D.Burch) 
@LilahTovMoon And to think that doofus wants to put people on Mars.
MylesRydenAs Adam Something put it in his video:
1. Step one: go to Mars.
2. Step two: die.
PhDog 🇮🇪It's like a train, but shittier.
It's like a bus, but shittier.
It's like an electric pickup truck, but shittier.
Cognitive Dissidence
Why a Mars Colony is a Dangerous and Stupid Idea
Andy Fletcher@LilahTovMoon He should use his meter to verify that he has ground continuity from the earth pin on the charging cable.
The earth pin of the socket on the vehicle should be bonded to the chassis - easy to verify with the meter.
This means the vehicle body should be connected to the local earth when charging - if it isn't then there is a wiring fault in the charger or less probably the bond wire has fallen off in the vehicle.
My money is on a charger wiring fault.
@X31Andy @LilahTovMoon
Pff. The charger should detect continuity on all lines before delivering 300-900 VDC.
Pff. The charger should detect continuity on all lines before delivering 300-900 VDC.
@Stinson_108 @LilahTovMoon he is using the AC charger port
@X31Andy @LilahTovMoon
Tesla chargers with Tesla plugs deliver 400-1000 VDC.
https://www.transportation.gov/rural/ev/toolkit/ev-basics/charging-speeds
Tesla chargers with Tesla plugs deliver 400-1000 VDC.
https://www.transportation.gov/rural/ev/toolkit/ev-basics/charging-speeds
@Stinson_108 @LilahTovMoon Tesla home chargers are AC - that is why you can AC charge Teslas on other vendor chargers - lookup the specification for J1772 (they send a 1KHz PWM signal to select charge speed).
Fast chargers are DC but cost a fortune and are not used at home unless you have a seriously oversized supply and stupid amounts of cash.
In any case the vehicle should be connected to the local earth via the connection - this is a basic safety requirement.
Robots can be gay deal with it@X31Andy @LilahTovMoon I agree with this. It's pretty standard for automobile wiring to connect the negative side of battery systems to chassis. Something is energizing the chassis, and I'd bet it's something wrong with the charger.
Maya@LilahTovMoon That multimeter measurement is terrifying, especially if you can pull a decent amount of current through the chassis like that. (Though I would have expected reports of people being shocked/electrocuted making the news already.)
The first part looks a bit sus, like they might have the red wire stuck in the charging socket while it's charging.
When the bulb arcs, you can see the charge port status indicator goes from charge complete to fault, and the tail of the red wire appears to have been pulled out from between the charger plug and socket as the person on the left backs away.
Neia masks@LilahTovMoon Exactly what you'd expect from someone whose family motto is "Safety third."
yoshinoya 
@LilahTovMoon metal objects did this to me but because there was a grounding fault in my apartment
Jayne@LilahTovMoon Spontaneous battery fires, "autopilot" crashes, doors that won't open when the vehicle gets submerged, and now the entire car body turning into a 120 volt AC live wire when charging...
I have never seen a car company so committed to killing its users than Tesla.
not a martian, honest@dotjayne @LilahTovMoon well, they do want driverless cars...
Joanna J. 
@LilahTovMoon This would not surprise me at all but I’m a bit skeptical in the video’s authenticity.
NeiNeon 
@LilahTovMoon my wife and I were talking about this but like my old dog would get so exited for car rides he'd race to my car and put his paws on it, like imagine you forget to unplug after charging overnight? or like just your kid touching it
ChookMother 🇦🇺🦘@Neineon77 @LilahTovMoon This is a single EV in a video that's most likely faked. My car's not a cybertruck but I touch it all the time when it's charging. The car and the charging cable communicate with each other and if something's wrong, charging would not start. There's never been anything wrong.
I'm in 5 online EV groups ( one has 30,000 members) and I've never heard of anyone getting a shock from a charger, a charging cable or a car.
Josh 
@LilahTovMoon I can’t even think of a way to do this intentionally…
Stuart Longland (VK4MSL)@LilahTovMoon Anti-theft device. ;-)
(Still… glad those things aren't on Brisbane streets yet… pretty sure that wouldn't meet AS/NZS:3000 requirements.)
Tay@LilahTovMoon can it also be charged by applying 120V to it's body?
Appears to be a well grounded design. /s
C.S.StrowbridgeSoooo.... Another recall soon?
Ölbaum@csstrowbridge @LilahTovMoon I’m sure it can be fixed by a software update.
(It’s a joke.)
Comrade Weez@LilahTovMoon Probably line & neutral reversed on the charger. But there's no excuse for a hot chassis, easy enough to detect LN reverse in the car and make it warn the user and pop the circuit breaker
Ultra Verified 🇺🇦 🇬🇱Hopefully no decides to take a piss on it while it's charging
That_Damn_FrankI keep asking if they are magnetic, but I get no answers.
It might be one way to keep them off of the road.
Patrick Leavy@LilahTovMoon dangerous #techbro bullshit
ideaPDishOkok... but how many amps go to ground?
And
Is that a Volts Vagen?
Gatekeeper..
Potato Enthusiast 🇵🇸@LilahTovMoon is that the mains voltage where you live?
Cos a 240V version of that here... you don't wanna touch that.
Back Alley InfoSec@LilahTovMoon
This is just the cyber trucks defense mechanism while charging to deter thrives
This is just the cyber trucks defense mechanism while charging to deter thrives
PiTau@LilahTovMoon
Probably a defective unit, since we did not see any headlines of people getting shocked by Cybertrucks. However this is telling how lackluster quality control is, that no one checks if the appliance class I requirements are met, once you plug in the charger.
The more I learn about Cybertruck and Tesla, the more I fear seeing Teslas on the road and the more I appreciate that this 7yo's take on futuristic truck is not allowed to ride on public roads in Europe.
@PiTau @LilahTovMoon Nor in Australia, where safety regulations are tighter. We don't allow self-driving cars either. I was shocked when I saw that self driving taxis were in use in America so soon after the technology was developed.
Karl Voit 
#Cybertruck having 120V of voltage when charged?
If this is an issue for more than just a few cars, #Tesla quality management is even worse than I thought.
Samhain Night@LilahTovMoon How is that legal?
@samhainnight @LilahTovMoon You're assuming firstly that the video is authentic, and that if one Cybertruck is like that, then others must be too. You can't really make either of those assumptions.
keinna 
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abortretryfailLots of household appliances will do that if plugged in to a miswired outlet. I've been on a job to fix that where I measured ~200VAC between a doorknob and the metal chassis of a refrigerator next to it. 🙁
nano ☎️ 6266 @ #eh2026@abortretryfail @LilahTovMoon Umm, was the owner a kid named Kevin and home alone at the time by any chance? 😅
Sterling@LilahTovMoon
I'd love to believe this, but it is highly unlikely. By now there would be lawsuits.
I'm not a fanboi, but come on.
Got to be the charger leaking to the ground somehow.
Probably a Temu charger
et tu @briankrebs ?
Fogmeister@AG100pct @LilahTovMoon @briankrebs this is also what I’m thinking.
Looking at the options what seems more realistic…
Company ships out cars with a deadly body that could kill on touching it. And there have been no law suits.
Or…
YouTube channel messes with the electrics to make a sensational viral video and make more money from lots of views?
🤔
Mx. Luna Corbden 🐸@LilahTovMoon @DemocracyMattersALot
Edison: I will electrocute animals to prove Tesla is wrong about AC being safe!
Musk: Hold my beer.
zl2tod@LilahTovMoon
I would look very carefully at the charging cable and whatever it is plugged into at the other end before I blamed the appliance.
I would look very carefully at the charging cable and whatever it is plugged into at the other end before I blamed the appliance.
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