Men I don’t know have been yelling at me for about 24 hours about how I am promoting toxicity and misinformation and am a narcissist and a bully in replies to my short thread about how it would be super nice to have control over replies here. To give people who for some reason don’t find people yelling at them to be the highest form of online communication a way to participate in public life online.

Many perfectly reasonable comments agreeing and disagreeing, but like…lordy.

The most recent one is, I guess, accusing me of sending him unwanted DMs by…replying to him in public?

I guess Mastodon is confusing even to FOSS guys sometimes!

Anyway! I could do without another three days of childishness but the only way to stop it is to delete my posts, and I used to do that regularly but then I realized that actually encourages them so nah.
(I should say there have been far more reasonable posts than shitty ones, both agreeing and disagreeing with my points. But the shitty ones go on foreverrrr fighting with other people in branching replies and also the longer a post is up, the higher the ratio of angry and sneering replies to regular ones.)
@kissane it’s almost as if this is the end result of a series of design decisions that should be reevaluated!
@kissane sounds like your point has been proven 😕
@kissane I don't suppose there are keyword patterns you could use to create filters for? Or would that mean paying them even more attention in order to work that out? *Sigh*

@markstoneman
I feel like OP was not asking for alternative not ideal solutions. They are just stating once more that there is a feature they would like. With evidence.
I hesitated to reply to you, given the content of their post. Please note I've untagged them.

I have the general feeling that because some people involved in design decisions don't have a problem with always open replies, they see requests for the feature as not in keeping with their view of how discussion should work here.
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@markstoneman

But if we flipped the "you can't have a broadcast only post, you have to block or mute , individually the people you don't want to interact with (or another workaround like your suggestion) and instead had a default "if you don't want broadcast only posts then block or mute accounts that use them" surely that puts the onus on the right person.
Limiting replies is a clear boundary, easily visible and there's no plausible deniability for "she doesn't mean me, I'm a nice guy"
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@kissane To be absolutely clear, I was talking about the present nastiness, not your good suggestion. Your perspectives are always helpful, and I hate to see any of your posts get deleted, *if* it can be helped. BTW, I think the feature you've suggeeted is also on Threads. I've gotten so used to seeing it on the other places that I forgot it wasn't here.
@kissane "A great experience should be simple to use. It shouldn’t be overly complex, and there should be sensible defaults and well-run entry points." – https://bsky.social/about/blog/6-23-2023-moderation-proposals
Moderation in a Public Commons - Bluesky

In this post, we share why we believe a public commons is important for social media, as well as some proposals for moderation and safety tooling.

Bluesky
@kissane even in good threads I have a tolerance level for about 5-10 notifications and then I mute the conversation 😆

@kissane

Sigh... I wish I could say "pay no attention to these asshole griefers" and you'd feel better.

Japanese has a grunt for this.

All I can say is fuck 'em and mute 'em. Nothing is worth being upset over an asshole....

@kissane You’ve perfectly described an unmoderated forum.
@kissane oof - I guess you might do this already, but absolutely do report them to your admin when they get like that, don't just personally block. People like that do it to everyone, and no one likes it.

Also huge props for still sticking it out, I'm so scared of the fossbro dudes that I'm purposefully keeping my account small  They've been keeping me out of the opensource community very successfully for over a decade and I can't bring myself to put myself in their radar here.
@kissane If only there was a way to control who could reply to posts!
@kissane i would also very much appreciate that feature! it would have come in useful for me several times
@kissane Sorry that you are dealing with this. You're one of the most thoughtful people writing about these topics … well, probably in the world. I'm glad you're not letting the assholes win here but it sure sucks that they are nevertheless able to exact a toll every time.
@glyph Eghhh thank you, that’s extremely kind. I could easily avoid pushback by just not talking about the stuff I talk about or maybe by being more obsequious but I’m stubborn on both of those points. 🤷🏻

@jef wait what?

they deleted "if only there was some way to prevent unwanted replies"???

@kissane Yep. Bizarre.
@jef Someone must have reported it as a taunt or something?? Let me know if you need me to testify on your behalf lol
@kissane I just figured some of your dogpilers spilled over onto me.
@jef @kissane What the hell?
@mattblaze @kissane Well that's what I get for being on a small disreputable instance.
@jef @kissane Dogpilers spilling over onto you is a disturbing picture. Please bathe well, and maybe take a rabies test just to be sure.
@kissane Oh hey they approved the appeal! Didn't undelete the post though.
@kissane No doubt he doesn't know the difference between a text and an email on his phone.
@juliewebgirl but the linux
@kissane Does it have the wifis?
@juliewebgirl @kissane i read this as "waifus" and thought "..yeah, probably..."

@kissane @juliewebgirl

> but the linux

whether this is a meme or something you just made up ... it is new to me and *perfect* ... I literally lol'd!

@kissane It's kind of amazing how often people go out of their way to prove the point they're supposedly arguing against.
@kissane I wonder if it will ever dawn on them that they are proving your point.

@kissane

this feels like it must have an associated internet "law" where talking about a feature that would greatly benefit folks inevitably invites folks proving how it's needed

@deilann @kissane There’s that one about how the comments on an article about feminism prove the need for feminism.

@kissane Okay, how... what... ???

"Narcissist and a bully?" Seems about what they told me when I told some guy off for suggesting it was censorship that people I blocked couldn't read my posts, but with the added edge of "talking to a woman I don't like so I have to be completely unreasonably toxic in my replies".

Seriously tho, how does someone draw that conclusion? Soon they will call people bullies for locking their front doors.

@WhyNotZoidberg I guess it was that I pointed out that Mastodon and ActivityPub devs are both working on implementing the features I was talking about, which I mentioned bc so many dudes kept telling me I had to just accept that this is how the system works.

So he decided I made them do it, thus bullying them into, uh, “serving” me. The chronology for this would have to involve time travel but I am apparently very powerful.

@kissane @WhyNotZoidberg I think we’d all like to think we’d be responsible and thoughtful users of time travel but I would probably devolve to petty shit within like…a week.

Or whatever “a week” means in that situation.

@kissane Ugh.

When I first got #OnHere I kept trying to boost WOC who were talking about how notifications are a mess on Masto, I got low-key cussed out by a number of high-profile accounts, telling me that I was shilling for Musk & Zuck & Jack by suggesting that things about Feditown could be improved.

Folks trying to figure out why every town isn't Fediville yet - ya looked at that? Sure, the "Fedi-" branding ain't great, but among the branding problems going on here, that's not even top 20

@kissane The feature of preventing replies from non-followers brings out interesting technical questions. Do you know if and where this discussion is talking place? I couldn't find it.
@hananc There’s a big git thread from 2018 but I gather that most conversation takes place privately.
@kissane is it okay to boost this?
@voltagex sure! I will be hiding from it either way lol, notifications give me the yips 😅
@kissane @voltagex (Adam is one of the good ones.)
@d stop, you'll make me blush. @kissane
@kissane
Reply guys proving your point that we need reply control by rudely arguing in your replies that we don't need reply control is peak fediverse
@kissane «I'm not going to explain to you that we don't need really control in the most obnoxious way possible, thereby unwittingly demonstrating why we need reply control.» not the guy take they believe it to be

@kissane

Ah, they're just demonstrating your point for you.

@kissane
Quite a few of your reply guys have themselves set their accounts to non-searchable. That's interesting.
@kissane I recommend my account to you. People rarely reply because I’m not popular. Most of my toots go totally unnoticed and don’t get replies. It’s great.