inb4_FoundTheVeganEither ya understand why most women pick the đ» or you are the đ».
HossenfefferAlmost 100% of women I know have personal experience of being sexually assaulted or harassed by a man.
0% of women I know have personal experience of being attacked by a bear.
Itâs not hard to understand why women are choosing the bear.
CryophiliaIf women saw as many strange bears every day as they see strange men, there would be a lot more maulings than sexual assaults.
Yeah, itâs not hard to understand: apparently, a large number of women are fuckin stupid.
Yeah, where do these dumb broads get off being scared of men? Get assaulted 2 or 3 times, maybe raped a couple, and all of a sudden men are the problem? So super dumb. Women as a species are just stupid, and they have no idea what they feel, so itâs up to us men to tell them how they should feel about us. With violence if necessary. God, itâs good being superior in every possible way to these silly girls.
Where do they get off comparing men to something theyâve never experienced (being alone with a bear)?
Compare apples to oranges then darvo when youâre called out on your misandrist false comparisonâŠ
Youâre being a pedant and intentionally ignoring the message. And men are calling women stupid while pretending to be stupid (or God forbid, actually being stupid). Learn what a metaphor and hyperbole is, and their literary functions. Then realize this isnât about literally spending time in the woods with a bear.
The words are the message. Women do not get a pass to insult all men and then say âoh, what I really meant wasâŠâ
No, fuck that. You said what you said, and itâs sexist as hell.
The women said theyâre scared of men. You took it as an insult and became hostile. You are the bear.
Just say youâre scared of men. Thatâs still unreasonable and a little insulting, but understandable. Donât rank us below a wild bear. The bear is what makes men angry.
medgremlinSpeaking as a woman who has been assaulted and harassed on multiple occasions by more than one man, Iâd just interject that bears can at least be pretty predictable. If you donât bother it, it very probably wonât bother you. The men who have assaulted and/or harassed me were people that (I thought) I knew and had been normal up to that point.
This is a hyperbole, and if push comes to shove, I would rather be dropped in a forest with another human⊠but if that human is a man that is a stranger, then Iâm going to have a different kind of guard up than I would for a bear.
TL;DR: Itâs easier to predict animal behavior than human behavior, and the best wonât lie about being a friend before attacking you.
The issue is many women are going âobviously itâs hyperboleâ, âobviously itâs an analogyâ, so maybe donât say shit like that? Itâs insulting.
And then you get some other (mentally ill imo) women saying, no, I would literally rather be mauled by a bear than have to exist around a male stranger.
Maybe youâre just dense? It seems pretty damn obvious if you can read between the lines. It seems to me that you donât like that you dont understand, so youâre blaming it on everyone else. Dont blame me that you arenât picking up what others are putting down
The point isnt the bear.
The point is absolutely the bear. Without the bear, itâs a reasonable statement. With the bear (or any other animal) itâs an insult.
Feeling insulted is a red flag dude. Thatâs an aggressive response to something that doesnât actually affect you negatively if you arenât a threat. If you are good, your actions will demonstrate this, and women wonât feel so threatened.
Are you insulted when a kitten is wary of you? And hides under the couch because you might hurt her? Do you blame the kitten for running from your imposing stature and booming voice? If a kitten was abused before making it to you, do you hold it against the kitten? Or do you nurture her and show her that you are a friend and that you have no intention of ever hurting her? People need to feel safe the same way a kitten does. This is not a bad thing.
Are you saying women have the intelligence of a kitten?
Do you seriously lack this much reading comprehension, or are you just pretending to be daft?
I dunno, I just like to hope women are smart enough to be rational.
A significant portion of women have either been sexually assaulted or harassed. Being wary of men (especially strange men in the hypothetical vulnerable situation) makes perfect rational sense.
No, actually, thatâs not rational at all. Thatâs textbook irrationality. Thatâs feelings, not thought.
Emotions are inherently irrational. Deal with it.
Trauma is inherently irrational.
Youâre cherry-picking the part of the paragraph that you think makes the other argument seem absurd.
If anyone hereâs the irrational one, itâs you.
So youâre saying women are too stupid to act rationally? Come on, man. Women are intelligent people. They donât get a pass if they do something stupid, theyâre not helpless kittens, they have agency. They are not slaves to emotion.
Wow, cryophilia that might be the most dishonest argument Iâve seen. It certainly is the worst one i can think of. Read a whole post before responding, Oh intelligent and rational one.
So like, do you think women are too stupid to act rationally? Or no?
So, what youâre saying is itâs not sexist for women to say theyâre afraid of men, and if you are that means youâre a dangerous sort of man. And of course the fear is acceptable because statistics say men are more likely to do violence than women, justifying that itâs not sexist - just statistics.
Now as a hypothetical, imagine white folks looking at FBI violent crime stats (UCR Table 43 if youâre curious) and saying theyâre afraid of blacks. You can see how thatâs racist, right? Even though statistics say black folks are more likely to assault, rape or kill you than white folks? Still racist, right? Should black folks be upset or insulted by the white folks in this hypothetical, and if they are does that make them part of the problem?
I keep seeing this like itâs some sort of gotcha. It isnât.
Disregarding the fact that the power dynamics are reversedâŠactually, no, never mind. Black violence is systemically perpetuated by a malicious and powerful group of people who thought it was okay to own people like property and still struggle to see black people as human. We are put in prisons, shot, and killed over these systemically enforced biases that we continually struggle to escape from. This issue is political because my very existence in this country is political, and it has to be tackled from many different directions to overcome due to its influence going back generations and being rooted in actual evil.
Women are scared of men because men have been scaring them all throughout history. Matriarchies are significantly more rare than patriarchies, because men have historically been dicks and lust for power. They also have historically been slaves to lust, and regularly take advantage of woman to sate their lust. In both examples, men and women are animals subservient to a dominant power.
That said, what do you think my response is to a misinformed white human who thinks Iâm a dangerous criminal based only on the color of my skin?
I prove them wrong.