@daringfireball “At will”. Says the self-employed guy writing from home.
“At will employment” is a complete marketing bullshit name for it. You had me until that last sentence. Now the entire article just reads like your personal contempt for “kids these days”.
It's a perfect example of why "at will employment" was created in the first place: to give *employers* a top-level excuse to rid themselves of problems without ever having to address the underlying concern that led to the dismissals. Google never mentions the particulars of the former employees' protest, did you notice? And they won't, because AT WILL EMPLOYMENT.
@gruber I support a right to *peaceful* protest/civil disobedience for all people. Based on Jan 6, I don't believe that the MAGA population *can* peacefully protest. But if they can, then yes, I support their right to do it, while still personally vehemently disagreeing with that group's goals.
Civil disobedience is one of the reasons Black people have (on paper at least; reality is different, but you have to start somewhere) legal protections for equality that didn't exist a few decades ago.
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First of all, I want to separate the wisdom and effectiveness of this sit-in from the ethics and intentions behind it. Every civil liberty that we take for granted was won through protest and civil disobedience. Our country's very independence was won through rebellion.
You can argue that the employees in this case overplayed their hand and lost their jobs as a result, but that doesn't mean their motivations weren't sound or justified.
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And it's very tone-deaf to suggest they should have “just quit” given the sad state of our country's labor laws and social safety nets. This gross imbalance of power is why we desperately need more unionization.
@daringfireball There was a quote in one of the stories about this: “workers have a right to object to how their work is being used”. Lots of nuance, but worth considering.
What drives me crazy about Googlers’ political entitlement is that they are ~always objecting to *other* people’s work. 1/2
@daringfireball When I worked there, I had moral qualms with their surveillance business model. So I refused to work for the ads division. Meanwhile, ads folks were crying “How dare Cloud sell commodity services to our own government‽”
They seem to imagine that 180,000 employees should all have veto power over what everyone else is doing.
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