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Andrea Junker 
Back before the Internet, we thought the reason for human stupidity was the lack of information options.
I’ll put it this way: That wasn’t it.
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Gatekeeper..@Strandjunker
They used to send monkeys into space, now they use test dummies ..
They used to send monkeys into space, now they use test dummies ..
Aleggra“They used to send monkeys into space, now they use test dummies ..”
You mean like Elon?
Any chance they can leave him there?
Oh, look. It’s master ambisexual, hermaphrodite or X.
Yes, X can also mean an asexual thingamajig or an androgynous doohickey.
I love the dodo button...lol
Seán Fenian@Strandjunker The most common reason for human stupidity is that stupidity is the low-effort option.
ferricoxide@zakalwe @Strandjunker
Depends how you account for effort. Acting stupid can be lower up-front effort, but the consequences of stupidity typically require more effort to either endure or correct ... even for the person that chose the path of stupidity. Unfortunately, "that's tomorrow men's problem" is also a pretty common approach to life.
Depends how you account for effort. Acting stupid can be lower up-front effort, but the consequences of stupidity typically require more effort to either endure or correct ... even for the person that chose the path of stupidity. Unfortunately, "that's tomorrow men's problem" is also a pretty common approach to life.
@ferricoxide @Strandjunker Yup. Failing to consider consequences is part of the low-effort paradigm. All forms of "somebody else's problem" are part of the low-effort paradigm, including when "somebody else" is "future me". Low EFFORT doesn't necessarily mean low COST.
Passenger@zakalwe @Strandjunker @ferricoxide
Not sure I'd agree. Low-effort can certainly mean poorly thought through; however there are some very high-effort ideas that are equally bad. QAnon, for example, is a very bad cluster of ideas which can hardly be said to be low-effort. If anything, it's far more complex than actual reality.
@passenger @zakalwe @Strandjunker @ferricoxide
If QAnon is complex, what is Trump? The test dummy?
@passenger @Strandjunker @ferricoxide Sure, QAnon is an incredible amount of effort invested into froot-loopery. But I didn't say that all stupidity is because it's low-effort; I asserted only that it's the most common root.
QAnon is not merely passively stupid. It is actively, purposefully mendacious and malicious.
QAnon is not merely passively stupid. It is actively, purposefully mendacious and malicious.
Tesmaia@Strandjunker I believe now that it's pretty much all coming from poor emotional awareness/control.
pnixe@Strandjunker said by no smart person ever
Pete ZicatoDon’t forget the important statistic that half of all people are below average.
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JoYo@Strandjunker not to put words in your mouth but this is an argument i hear all the time for shutting down libraries.
Paul Kemner@JoYo @Strandjunker
Two origins for idiocy in the US- old and new tech-
Concentration of media ownership- rules changes made it possible for a single company to own hundreds of local radio stations- Rush Limbaugh appeared all over the country, with small businesses playing it every day.
Recommendation engines on commercial social media amplify idiocy like nothing beforehand.
The Doctor@Strandjunker Can I quote you on that?
John Caveney woke is me🛠️@Strandjunker seems you’re spot on! 😳😳😳
Edan Osborne 🇺🇦🇵🇸♾️@Strandjunker Maybe it's all the lead and smoke we've been filling the air with since the 1800s.
AdeptVeritatisWhat then? The ignorance, thinking it is about other people?
some kind of orange shape@AdeptVeritatis @Strandjunker I think it's propaganda! It benefits those in power for the majority of people to be incurious and vaguely reactionary, so school beats the curiosity out of us and teaches us that better things aren't possible.
Curiosity ... 🤔
"the desire to gain knowledge or information" (wp)
1. Information options are good for curiosity.
"is the driving force behind human development" (wp)
2. We need information options.
Curiosity is to look at things, which are there. And then you decide for yourself to keep them in the role model category or in the "I don't want that" category.
But curiosity isn't teaching. You aim at yourself.
Curiosity doesn't say: "I know how to handle information options to not be stupid."
It doesn't want to be liked by the people, you sorted into the unpleasant category.
So it doesn't need to teach them, how good you are.
True curiosity is, what interests _you_.
Not what you think, other people might interest in you.
Commercials and propaganda play exactly with these triggers.
Yeah, and it reminds me on how I hated school for not letting me be how I am.
Darren Leathley@Strandjunker The internet made it possible for the really stupid ones to contact each other and pool resources.
Ciscogod@Strandjunker Back before the internet, many people got their news from local AM radio stations - many of which had crackpot midnight shows talking about the paranormal and UFOs as if they were fact. You also had tabloid headlines that you read for free at the grocery store checkout. Network news was pretty buttoned down. The problem wasn’t the internet, it was the birth of one-sided partisan cable news networks, which caused people to seek out what they wanted to hear on the ‘net.
kinyutakaYou mean to tell me Bat-Boy isn't real?
@kinyutaka @Strandjunker Everything in the Weekly World News is fact. I understand Bat Boy currently works at the pool house ar Mar-a-Lago.
Sloan Studio@Strandjunker @BlackAzizAnansi Inquisitiveness is so key. So many would rather demand info on social media instead of diving into wikipedia and sources.
Paul Cantrell@Strandjunker
Relevant, probably: the idea that Zeynep Tufekci talks about that noise — information overload, “flooding the zone” — is effectively another form of censorship. Making it hard to •speak• and making it hear to •listen• have very similar effects.
Relevant, probably: the idea that Zeynep Tufekci talks about that noise — information overload, “flooding the zone” — is effectively another form of censorship. Making it hard to •speak• and making it hear to •listen• have very similar effects.
TAI@Strandjunker people have always gravitated towards their appetites, why assume it was the truth or facts? Some have a desire to be informed, to grow their minds. Some seek opinions to feed their notions over fact. Now there is just an abundance of information AND nonsense to choose from. Those who use it to remain fuckin idiots just drowns out the amazing benefits of access for some many who were left out.
Sagittarius 1805..... too much information may have the same effect. 🫤
SellaTheChemist@Strandjunker Carlo Cipolla was my uncle’s PhD advisor and he wrote his Laww of Human Stupidity loooong before the web blew the rest of our brains out.
Océane@Strandjunker
Sorry, but you've just called abuse victims, mostly disabled and/or from low income families, “stupid”.
Social media give the same rewards to publications and comments, so people addicted to social media comment comments of comments.
Social media put characters limits on comments, stories, and tweets, so victims of social media addiction can't really conceptualize anything.
Social media give their users – who are addicted to other people's attention – tools to get their peers' attention by making them feel endangered, and because it's an addiction, their peers will feel anxious whenever getting over their social media addiction to study, start a project, read a book, or anything. They will also make their relatives feel endangered to get their attention.
For these reasons, they will also consume the assets produced by their peers, and produce assets consumed by their peers, in a rather closed circuit. They're culturally isolated from anything at stake for their communities, countries, or species.
Social media affordances are ubiquitous, and they poison any kind of information consumed there. The way social media victims consume and produce information isn't diverse.
And they tend to be disabled people, school abuse survivors, children from low-income families, mostly teenagers and young adults, with a rather poor social experience, i.e. extremely low standards and no concept of red flags.
Sorry, but you've just called abuse victims, mostly disabled and/or from low income families, “stupid”.
Social media give the same rewards to publications and comments, so people addicted to social media comment comments of comments.
Social media put characters limits on comments, stories, and tweets, so victims of social media addiction can't really conceptualize anything.
Social media give their users – who are addicted to other people's attention – tools to get their peers' attention by making them feel endangered, and because it's an addiction, their peers will feel anxious whenever getting over their social media addiction to study, start a project, read a book, or anything. They will also make their relatives feel endangered to get their attention.
For these reasons, they will also consume the assets produced by their peers, and produce assets consumed by their peers, in a rather closed circuit. They're culturally isolated from anything at stake for their communities, countries, or species.
Social media affordances are ubiquitous, and they poison any kind of information consumed there. The way social media victims consume and produce information isn't diverse.
And they tend to be disabled people, school abuse survivors, children from low-income families, mostly teenagers and young adults, with a rather poor social experience, i.e. extremely low standards and no concept of red flags.
Tnere is no shortage of people that prefer to be information-free. When you are a child, and your parents are this way, it does not help.
@Strandjunker information's paradox
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Back then the concept of wilful ignorance was incomprehensible.
Back then the concept of wilful ignorance was incomprehensible.
⁂ Fish Id Wardrobe@Strandjunker Maybe – just maybe – there was more than one reason humans were stupid.
@Strandjunker Smart people have always done smart things and dump people have always done dumb things. For smart people to do dumb things requires the internet.
Job@Strandjunker I guess now it is misinformation.
Plmkt@Strandjunker
Lack of curiosity to learn.
Lack of curiosity to learn.