We're Zoning out! We've now got three different sites connected via Apple Internet Router!

#RetroComputing #VintageApple #VintageMac #MARCHintosh #GlobalTalk #LiveLaughLocalTalk

It’s like Kinko’s here, print jobs being sent from afar to my ImageWriter II via LocalTalk. This one from @vga256

#RetroComputing #VintageApple #VintageMac #MARCHintosh #GlobalTalk #LiveLaughLocalTalk

I wrote a quick blog post about how to spin up your own Apple Internet Server with WAN capability (tunnel AppleTalk over the Internet).

https://biosrhythm.com/?p=2767

#RetroComputing #VintageApple #VintageMac #MARCHIntosh #GlobalTalk #LiveLaughLocalTalk

Ā» Pushing AppleTalk Across the Internet

I've put together a Google Spreadsheet to manage our Apple Internet Router network numbers, IP address lists, etc. But I want to make sure it's kept viewable only to participants. Send @mac84tv a PM with your Google-associated email address and he'll add you.

Thanks to @dillera for the idea!

#MARCHintosh #GlobalTalk #LiveLaughLocalTalk

I'm helping so many folks behind the scenes to get onto #GlobalTalk. We're up to 15 nodes and counting!

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Hot off the #GlobalTalk ImageWriter II press, a print from @1Bit via Quebec!

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The #AppleLisaClone gets in on the #GlobalTalk fun. Running MacWorks XL and System 6, it works quite nicely as a workstation.

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#GlobalTalk problems. Unattended ImageWriter II output -> input and so forth. The issues of the 80s and 90s .. today! šŸ˜‚

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#GlobalTalk folks at work rn talking about their plans tonight.

#MARCHintosh

I just turned on my ImageWriter LQ (you know, the giant wide carriage model) with a LocalTalk option card. It's connected to #GlobalTalk right now!

It's loaded with 14 7/8" x 8.5" paper (I think is called "Computer Paper" in Page Setup sometimes).

Have fun!

#MARCHintosh #RetroComputing #VintageApple #VintageMac

After a rocky start (it helps to put a ribbon in it šŸ˜‚), here’s the #GlobalTalk mail from the ImageWriter LQ wideboi. Thanks @likesoldmacs @polpo @halkyardo

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I think I’ve responded to everyone who requested access via PM to #GlobalTalk. If not PM me again.

Just a reminder, your email you send to me must be associated with a Google Account, sorry, it’s a Google Sheet.

#MARCHintosh

#GlobalTalk update: Send a PM to @mac84tv with your Google Account-associated email to request access to the host tracking Google Sheet.

#MARCHintosh

Warming up the #GlobalTalk infrastructure this morning here with four different printers online:

LaserWriter II
ImageWriter LQ
ImageWriter II
HP LaserJet 4000

#MARCHintosh

Tried running Apple Internet Router on the #AppleLisaClone but with only 2MB of memory, it’s too much to ask.

It’s a shame, I think it might actually work, bridging EtherTalk (via BlueSCSI V2 WiFi), IP tunneling, and LocalTalk. I couldn’t thin the system down any further (that I can see).

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I've been trying to get the TashTalk Hat running with the MacIPRpi distribution to have one machine that can bridge all of my LocalTalk, EtherTalk, and LToUDP AppleTalk traffic plus provide file and time services. So far, it's only partially working with "tashtalkd" and not at all with "tashrouter".

I'm following this post loosely. Has anyone else made progress with an all-in-one solution?

https://68kmla.org/bb/index.php?threads/tashrouter-an-appletalk-router.46047/post-518796

#GlobalTalk #MARCHintosh

TashRouter: An AppleTalk Router

macbook m2 Is the macbook plugged into Ethernet or WiFi? LToUDP is slow and timeout-ridden over wifi for some reason on modern macs - I reckon it's something in macOS's WiFi power management.

68kMLA

Looks like the version of netatalk used on the MacIPRpi image is a little outdated and has some issues that have since been corrected.

This forced me to start from scratch and dive head first into learning how to compile Netatalk. So far, not too bad. I followed this guide with Raspbian "Bullseye"

https://github.com/Netatalk/netatalk/wiki/Installing-Netatalk-2-on-Debian

I've gotten some great help on 68kmla forum.

Early progress shows that running all this on one Pi does seem possible!

Installing Netatalk 2 on Debian

Netatalk is a Free and Open Source AFP fileserver. A *NIX or BSD system running Netatalk is capable of serving many Macintosh clients simultaneously as an AppleShare file server. - Netatalk/netatalk

GitHub
@paulrickards The addition of the Apple IP Gateway can also be added to your process for setting up the AIR. Doing this on a Mac itself is part of the fun for me.
@dillera That's great! Does that give TCP/IP connectivity to other Macs over AppleTalk (i.e. AppleTalk IP)?
@paulrickards yes it does exactly that!
@dillera That's cool! The MaciPRPi for Raspberry Pi has that capability out of the box-- very slick!
@paulrickards The only thing I'm not sure of is how it works for Mac's using MacTCP- this PB was already using OT and it just worked. I need another Mac to test lol

@paulrickards Yea, building from source is the way to go.

It will build and run fine in the latest Raspbian / Raspberry Pi OS just fine too (at least on the 32bit version, which I chose out of an abundance of caution lol), as their kernel seems to have AppleTalk enabled.

@paulrickards I did! I followed that exact post. The only possible difference is that I'm running TashTalk and TashRouter on separate machines (Rpis).
@paulrickards I'll document the setup tomorrow and share
@mejs I’ve gotten TashTalk to work on the same and different Pi. TashRouter doesn’t work on the same one. I think it’s because of the tun/tap settings which I don’t fully understand. The data is there in the debug, but it doesn’t actually route it anywhere. Looking forward to your results.

@paulrickards yeah that sounds like what I saw too. I'll share the exact setup after work today, but one thing to look at is LocalTalk routing in your AIR.

I believe the combo that worked for me is defining the EtherTalk zone in both AIR and TashRouter, but having a LT zone ONLY in TashRouter, none in AIR

@mejs I’ve not even tried to get AIR working with this setup yet. Just local stuff first.
@mejs Ideally, tashrouter could be extended to add the functions of AIR, adding a route between other hosts. Then it would be an all in one solution.

@paulrickards so here's my tashrouter, netatalk and AIR config. Tashtalk I'm running with ./tashtalkd --device /dev/ttyAMA0 -vv &

I still think that tashrouter should have additional settings to make it a soft seed router, but for whatever reason this is now working really well and I've got all my EtherTalk and LocalTalk (+ Mini vMac over LToUDP) speaking to each other, to my Netatalk server and everyone else on #GlobalTalk

I didn't get to do a proper writeup yet but I hope this helps!

@paulrickards I printed an image to the LaserJet, it said "4/4 pages".... I apologise, it's just one image, but there was no print-preview and only basic page setup stuff, so I winged it D:
@paulrickards I really need to get that mobile #GlobalTalk solution working so I can send you prints when out of the house šŸ˜„
@mejs Yeah! Wish I had a Newton or eMate to try this stuff on!
@paulrickards having serious Newton fomo this morning seeing everyone's handwritten notes printing!
@paulrickards šŸŽµ if you liked it then you should have put a ribbon in it šŸŽµ
@paulrickards Oh wow! I've only ever seen one LQ before, and it was a m o n s t e r !
@paulrickards forever kicking myself for not buying an LQ when there were numerous in the As Is department at RePC. 
@paulrickards I hope to find some time this weekend to join in the GlobalTalk fun. Life is too hectic sometimes.
@Recta_Pete Yeah I can understand that. Take care! It'll be here when you're ready.
@paulrickards just printed something that should be wide on it šŸ¤ž
@paulrickards Have you got any of the documentation (owner's manual and/or service manual) for the ImageWriter LQ? I haven't been able to find either of those manuals, for the LIFE of me, online.
@paulrickards 🤣 guffawed at that one
how many times did i come upstairs, as a kid, to hear my mom swearing at our Star NX-1000 which did exactly this 20% of the time
@paulrickards It's performance art 😜
@paulrickards @a2_4am Oh man, it makes me want to pull mine out of storage, is there still a source for ribbons or a web page that will tell me how to hack some oldass dried out ones.
Apple ImageWriter II Color Ribbon Cartridge

@a2_4am @paulrickards amazing, amazed you can still buy perfed fanfold paper on amazon…
@paulrickards Oh hey, that's me 🤣🤣🤣