I noted that the #bridge which is two-way, is actually well thought out. Deletions are bridged (1). Follows are sent through standard means, so locked accounts are respected (2). There are plans to federate reports (3) and there is a moderation policy (4). I do not believe they're as ignorant as some people claim.

1. https://snarfed.org/2024-02-12_bernie-the-wordsmith-snarfed-org-how-would-bridgin-mastodon-en-masto-es
2. https://fed.brid.gy/docs#behavior-mismatches
3. https://github.com/snarfed/granary/issues/596
4. https://fed.brid.gy/docs#moderation-policy

#BridgyFed #ActivityPub #fediverse #BlueSky

Through my observations, it appears that the #bridge is presented as an equal to other #ActivityPub instances. Clearly many do not think so, based on their convictions of #BlueSky users, which bears asking: what makes BlueSky different from, say, a generalist Mastodon instance? In other words, why is #federation opt-out, yet #BridgyFed must be opt-in?

#fediverse

Some insist on various legal bases like GDPR, but let's not kid ourselves here: the #fediverse is built on shaky legal foundations. Instances operate on unwritten gentlemen's agreements rather than terms of service. Most of us take #ActivityPub #federation for granted, but we lose control of our data once it gets out. In fact, I believe that if we're to enforce legal rights, then the fediverse will come down very quickly.

#BridgyFed #bridge

I think the #ActivityPub #fediverse needs to seriously grapple with the problem of using platforms to label and divide people. Yes, platforms do bad things, but does that mean they "deserve it?" Does not using your preferred platform make them inferior to you? On a personal scale, you have free will; but on an instance scale, there is a difference. I urge #MastoAdmin's to reconsider #BridgyFed once they launch formally.

#bridge

Now, I call upon @snarfed.org to respect the popular will and implement opt-in for #BridgyFed while properly (ie. in clear terms, not PR) communicate to the public how exactly the #bridge works. I implore all participants to remain civil and stop ridiculing them as the "techbro" you claim them to be, especially since I've seen people trying to dig through the owner's personal life and bash them based on their work experience at Google!

#ActivityPub #fediverse #BlueSky

@austin I was tracking and agreeing with everything up until the point of still requesting that the bridge be "opt-in". As I see it the bridge should be considered no different than any other #ActivityPub instance/platform. Are we going to start requiring opt-in for every other platform that uses ActivityPub like #Pixelfed or #Bookwrym or #Pleroma ? If people want opt-in then they can be on a #Mastodon instance that doesn't federate with anyone by default.

@snarfed.org

@tim

"Are we going to start requiring opt-in for every other platform that uses ActivityPub...?"

Bluesky does *not* use ActivityPub -- it uses the ATProtocol

Apples != oranges and all

cc @austin @snarfed.org

@tim

"This is the same garbage and out cry of federating with #Threads"

For exactly the same reasons

Threads is a known quantity - there's no surprises there

#Bluesky is a known quantity - there's no surprises there

We (some of us, anyway) are *not* on Threads or Bluesky because of *exactly* what we know them to be

Others, not so much...

cc @austin @snarfed.org

@FinchHaven I'm sorry but it still doesn't make any sense. It's no different than any other #ActivityPub platform that isn't #Mastodon . If you don't want to be a part of the federated platform then move to your own island instance that doesn't federate with anyone.

@austin @snarfed.org

@tim @FinchHaven @austin @snarfed.org

is bridge for billionaire owned company