Cabel SasserNuts. No Apple Vision Pro for this guy. š š š
Is there an optometrist out there who can tell me what stat I need to level up on my eyes to use the latest Apple product. Maybe I can find some buffs
So Iāve booked an eye appointment next Thursday, where I will request from my eye doctor a intentionally-slightly-shitter version of my prescription, because Iām right on the line of what they allow, all so that I can purchase and use the latest Apple Hardware Product.
Iām feeling super weird about this future. But. Letās go!
Steve Riggins@cabel hopefully the future will soon be in focus
@steveriggins very slightly out of focus, you mean
@cabel I wonder if EyeSight will show you slightly squinting
Ryan@cabel Also- the fact that lenses are a prescription they same way something like a pain medication is, is wild. Why do glasses need to be controlled the same way as oxycodone?
Jonathan Hendry@jonhendry @cabel That's true. I guess it's the expiration/ requirement that you need a prescription at all I find strange. You can buy reading glasses anywhere, but for a specific vision need you have to have at doctor's signature.
Alex Rosenberg
mikesusz@cabel oh thereās a limit? yeah i donāt think iāll never be able to use this product.
Ethan Mateja@cabel Iām out of range as well for my glasses prescription. I also have one for contact lenses that are not quite strong enough for screens. I am considering what a glasses prescription would be for me while wearing said contacts. š§
Best of luck! Iāll be following your journey for sure!
Mark Pauley@cabel I low key got PRK for this (well and surfing) 5 weeks ago
Chuck Jordan@cabel FWIW: when I tried one, I gave them my prescription (which Zeiss rejected today) and they came back with a couple of lenses within an hour, and everything looked perfectly clear to me for extended periods. So unless theyāve got a magic lenscrafter somewhere in that building, I suspect that finding a pair thatās āclose enoughā to your actual Rx would be just fine.
Dan Wineman@SasquatcherGeneral @cabel According to @atpfm the only focal distance you need to correct for is 1.3 meters. Maybe that helps?
Timo Hetzel@cabel looks to me like youāre in the range stated? But rather high cylinder.
dort@cabel you need NTSC eyeballs, sorry š
Holger Krupp@cabel eat more carrots? š„
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Alex Akers@cabel Not a doctor but I found this article https://www.warbyparker.com/learn/how-to-read-eye-prescription
Jan Schƶppach 
@cabel is it possible you mixed up sphere and cylinder? Quite high cyl on low sphere though
sclyde@cabel Iām a bit confused about the whole prescription lens accessory thing in generalā¦ I feel like people with glasses have been using all kinds of VR products without issue for a long time now. What makeās Appleās special? Poor design? Does it not fit over a pair of glasses?
Steven Huang@sclyde @cabel Pressure exerted by the headset straps on the frames can cause discomfort especially with prolonged use, and likely also causes unwanted light to leak into the headset.
Theyāre not new or unique to Apple. https://vroptician.com has inserts for lots of different headsets.
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Beth Weigand š¦@sclyde @cabel my experience with glasses inside a VR headset (in this case, PlayStation VR) is that it works, but the glasses scratch up the VR lens. Not something youād want to do to an expensive Vision Pro!!! (Or vice versa, to your nice prescription glasses)
Personally, I wear contact lenses, so I assume I wouldnāt have to get prescription Vision Pro lensesā¦ although I totally understand why thatās not an option for every glasses wearer.
@cabel Solidarity, brother. I failed the prism check. I thought I remembered seeing the cylinder values had to be within +/- 4. This site seems to let you do a pre-check and might give more info:
(Edit to clarify: I have no idea what the ācylinderā values actually mean, and I canāt reliably say where I saw any actual range numbers, on account of my broken eyes).
https://www.zeiss.com/vision-care/us/zeiss-optical-inserts/prescription-guide.html
Dan Hon@SasquatcherGeneral @cabel oh man I just had to go check, but it's not like I'm ordering one soon anyway. Passed that Zeiss check, thanks Chuck.
Don Whiteside@cabel if you want to play around they have a form to check here https://www.zeiss.com/vision-care/us/zeiss-optical-inserts/prescription-guide.html#prescriptionchecker
The @atpfm guys unearthed something in their most recent show about the focal distance being ~4.5 feet out so that near add on your script is probably irrelevant if thatās the problem.
Khaos Tian@cabel for your sphere ZEISS offers cylinder value between -4.5 and 0. Maybe you can check with your doctor and see if they can increase the cylinder value for your right eye to -4.5? In most situations it should probably be okay...
Jeff Noxon@cabel Ugh! I haven't seen any data on the cylinder limit for these inserts. I have -2.75 cylinder, which was apparently OK. I think Meta only goes to -2.00.
Mutesplash@cabel Uh what, that seems pretty normal
Jonathan Badeen
@badeen awesome! Thank your dad for me! Off I go to the eye studio
@cabel Just did. He said to give you his phone number in case you want the numbers he verified on the Zeiss site. Shoot me an email at my first name at my last name .com if you want his number.
@cabel Iām assuming youāve got it straightened out but he said you only need to reduce the cylinder power in your right eye to -4.50
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Philipp@cabel will you need to place an entirely new Vision Pro order or just a new order for lens inserts?
derek the solarboi@badeen @stroughtonsmith @cabel Orrrrrrr maybe one could use really compelling Photoshop to alter said prescription š
Bed@badeen @cabel @stroughtonsmith @atpfm and here I am with -12 contacts and -17 coke bottle glasses. Sigh
Zach Smith@badeen @cabel I ordered the Vision Pro and ZEISS rejected my prescription as well. š„² I wonder if your dad could help me out too, but I'm not sure there's anything possible to make my current prescription work within ZEISS' tolerances.
@badeen hey, sorry for the delay. Iām 29.
@zacitus he also said, āHe could get soft lenses. He may still need an insert over the soft lenses to fine tune his visionā
Apparently when he was still practicing this wouldnāt have been possible but supposedly is today.
@badeen nice, this is helpful š Iām seeing my optometrist tomorrow and this gives me an idea of what I can ask him related to the Vision Pro and soft lenses, etc. Thank you, and please tell your dad I said thanks as well for his thoughts! :)
Daniel Jalkut@cabel I wonder if +/-4 is out of range for cylinder, and they simply neglect to list that in the form rejection text. Do you know yourself to have an extreme astigmatism (double vision at distance)?
Ned Holbrook@danielpunkass @cabel I was trying to work that out myself. Assuming you add the sphere and cylinder diopters, arenāt both of Cabelās eyes well within the allowed range?
@danielpunkass @cabel Turns out itās due to his high cylinder values, at least according to https://www.zeiss.com/vision-care/us/zeiss-optical-inserts/prescription-guide.html
@nedley @danielpunkass Curse these high cylinder values!!! Story of my life!!!
Tom@cabel @nedley @danielpunkass getting flashbacks to trying to format hard drives for Linux in the 90s with all this cylinders talk! š
@danielpunkass @cabel Thatās what I thought, but I couldnāt figure out how to map both onto a single range. Not a very informative error message!
Michael Everson@danielpunkass The lens will have both a maximum cylinder and a maximum total power. The generous take is that customers donāt understand how to calculate those numbers because scripts can be written a few different ways. The cynical take is that it is to make sure that the profession is not cut out of the loop. š
Anyway, looking at the numbers, Cabel doesnāt have anything to worry about because the acuity drop from adjusting his script to be able to be manufactured will be objectively tiny. From a physics of light perspective anyway haha.
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