Steve Trooper
nixCraft 🐧Google confirms they will disable uBlock Origin in Chrome in 2024 🤡
davidd@nixCraft Why
Gilles Bonnet
arialdo
Matty
Xerø@nixCraft I guess 2024 is when I stop using Chrome.
Kiloku - Secretário do Caos@ecksearoh @nixCraft why wait? Firefox is a better browser right now.
Project Insanity
DearFox
ShadowTux
MegatronicThronBanks@nixCraft
Soooo uBlock will just gind a way round, and in the meantime Chromium will step up
Soooo uBlock will just gind a way round, and in the meantime Chromium will step up
Gokul Das@megatronicthronbanks @nixCraft The declarative solution based on MV3 will never be as good as what uBlock does now. As someone put it, "This is roughly the equivalent of taking a heuristic malware blocker and making it depend solely on file names or file checksums". They will just override it eventually.
And, a chrome derivative won't make a dent in Google's power to corrupt the web. People need to throw out anything based on chrome or blink - starting yesterday.
@megatronicthronbanks @nixCraft I'm not at all worried about nerds. They know the solution. They just needed a push - which this one might be.
What I'm worried about is that websites may start blocking non-chromium browsers. Some already do. The only way out is for alternative browsers to have a large enough market share. All the world's nerds are not going to be enough for that.
Laura@megatronicthronbanks @goku12
There is no need for a new browser, Firefox is right there, open source and works great.
There is no need for a new browser, Firefox is right there, open source and works great.
Excessive Minimalism@laurailway @megatronicthronbanks @goku12
Yeah, and funded by Google.
What will it happen to Firefox when Google decides to stop pretending they aren't a monopoly and stops giving money to Firefox to be the default search option on Firefox upon a fresh install?
I'll tell you what they'll do, they'll run around begging for contributions, fire half their work force and be eventually assimilated.
I love Firefox, I use it daily, but Google is king, like it or not.
@excess @laurailway @megatronicthronbanks Google is king because the crown was handed to them on a silver platter. Firefox may be dependent on them. But for the moment, they are pro-user compared to chrome by a huge margin. Neglecting Firefox because it's not perfect is a very counterproductive stance to take.
Meanwhile, there are other solutions in the works. Perhaps this is the wakeup call needed for the world to start supporting those efforts.
@goku12 @laurailway @megatronicthronbanks
As I mentioned, I use FF daily and is my browser of choice. I'm extremely happy with it (my RAM is quite happy too).
But I'm using it because Google is letting me... momentarily. Thinking otherwise is naive.
@excess @laurailway @megatronicthronbanks That argument is very defeatist, IMO. It's just a surrender without a fight.
Firefox has enough forks already. There will be enough momentum even if Mozilla goes under. And as I said - there are other alternatives in the making. It's either that, or just forget the entire web.
@megatronicthronbanks @goku12 @laurailway
Yep, the situation is pretty forked up.
Duco@megatronicthronbanks @nixCraft Chrome has severely restricted the access of plugins. They won't find any other way, except to bring out their own browser with this built in.
Stefan Ritter@nixCraft But I love Chrome so much. It has:
* customization features
* self hosted sync server
* low memory
Oh wait, that's Firefox.
Khleedril@gideonstar @nixCraft Not sure about the low memory part.
Rob@nixCraft
"....It's not clear how much money Google and publishers lose because of ad blockers, but the company’s claim that Manifest V3 will help developers create better ad blockers seems somewhat unlikely, at least based on what some experts have said....."
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/googles-new-extension-platform-could-break-ad-blockers-what-we-know
mingu
JaggyJeff@nixCraft Are they that eager to lose market shares?
ObsolescentSapien@nixCraft Why is anyone still using this shit browser and why was anyone ever using it when there are better options available? Firefox, Brave, Mullvad, DuckDuckGo, Vivaldi, LibreWolf, etc. There is no reason strong enough to overcome the fact that Google is a surveillance company. Stop being such lazy shitheads already.
Jonas Bjärnstedtbecause most people don't care. they get a browser with windows, chromebook, their mac, and then they use that browser. @nixCraft
Dr Know@obsolescentsapien @nixCraft didn't know about LibreWolf. Thanks.
@obsolescentsapien @nixCraft they will most likely remove it from Chromium, too, which will result in other chromium based browsers, like Brave, Vivaldi, Edge,… loosing that as well. Aren't they using the same plugin repo, too? I think Firefox and LibreWolf are the real alternatives here.
Brian May 🐧@duco @obsolescentsapien @nixCraft I might be wrong, but it sounds like they are removing it from the browser, not the repo. If they change chromium, the change can always be reverted because it is open source. If they change the repo, they can always change the chromium to use another source for the plug-in.
Ceremus@penguin_brian @duco @obsolescentsapien @nixCraft The problem with that is making a fork of a project as huge as a browser isn't realistic for small independent teams in the long term, at least not when you're making drastic changes that conflict with downstream updates. Google is still the majority code contributor to Chromium, a small team can't just take over the whole project, nor can they fight with Google's downstream updates indefinitely.
Clément CG@obsolescentsapien @nixCraft I use Firefox since many years.
But I have to admit that it's slightly slower than Chromium (I don't know if it is Firefox's fault or if it is because people develop websites optimized for Chromium only now)
Firefox takes time to implement new CSS features compared to Chromium browsers.
Some criticaly needed apps in the browser only run on Chromium browser (MS Teams etc.).
So ❤ to Firefox, it's still my daily driver, but I need a Vivaldi install on the side also.
But I have to admit that it's slightly slower than Chromium (I don't know if it is Firefox's fault or if it is because people develop websites optimized for Chromium only now)
Firefox takes time to implement new CSS features compared to Chromium browsers.
Some criticaly needed apps in the browser only run on Chromium browser (MS Teams etc.).
So ❤ to Firefox, it's still my daily driver, but I need a Vivaldi install on the side also.
Peter Kovář@nixCraft Disable Analphabet Incorporated. Now!
sxpert@mmu_man
Ça tombe bien, j’utilise pas chrome 🤣
Ça tombe bien, j’utilise pas chrome 🤣
Moppi
Atlas@nixCraft free advertisement for Firefox
@nixCraft yeah and after that YouTube will mysteriously stop working on Firefox based browsers...
Acvaristul Lenes@nixCraft what is a Google Chrome? :)))) (FF user here)
拔刀问路--经常截图评论firefox will be the next we can use
electrical tape@nixCraft firefox can NOT stop taking w’s
Arnaud Launay@nixCraft Google confirms we will stop using Chrome in 2024. Next, YouTube allowed only on Chrome.
There's a // with IE in the 2000's I think.
Aron Gergely@nixCraft I am waiting for the day when one gets literally burned at the stake for using adblock.
Network-wide blocking via DNS filters is still an option though, like https://pi-hole.net
Сірьога-Сенсей@arongergely @nixCraft So. But this requires a server. And not everyone can afford to rent it. I'm already silent about the complexity of the setup
Wandering Thinker@nixCraft LibreWolf.
localhost TCP/UDP
Dane FREE PALESTINE@nixCraft the only thing this guarantees is an upsurge in the uninstallations of Chrome.
Corb_The_Lesser@nixCraft Google's effort to thwart ad blockers demonstrates it's an advertising sales business and that search, youtube, and everything else it does are devices to leverage content Google does not create as a sea upon which to float billable ads.
None of us are obligated to accept Google's ads "because content creators need to be paid". The ads are there because 1) Google can't figure out another way to make money, and, 2) Most of the "content" Google platforms isn't worth paying for.
Kevin Karhan 
manchicken moved!
Lilith
magggus@nixCraft Vivalidi Browser is the choice for you in 2024 latest
gavinisdie 
@nixCraft Jokes on them im on Firefox