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Death threats, doxxing, and transphobia: meet Nivenly, the AI art foundation aiming to police Mastodon
Exec. Goofy@twokitties A significant oversight in this is that there HAS been considerable discussion of this on Nivenly's Github page, with a long list of concerns leveled against FSEP. It is far from going "unnoticed" or "out-of-sight".
https://github.com/nivenly/community/discussions/4
The lack of response from Nivenly after weeks seems to indicate the project is DOA. I think the foundation is content to simply let it languish and not push for further action.
@twokitties I sincerely hope that people do not read your post as an invitation to dogpile Github. The discussion so far has been civil, with a number of issues both technical and social raised, and seemed very productive (or, rather, seems to have effectively buried the project).
Telling people "if you are trans and feeling bad, please comment on the Github" is immediately going to pour gasoline on the smoldering remains of a long dead fire. Don't do that.
Lightning Bjornsson* 
@twokitties this is good investigative journalism
James Endicott@twokitties
I didn't realize Fediseer was tied into this whole mess. I've been recommending it as an alternative because it's much better than any opaque blocklist by bad actors could ever be. I knew db0 was an ai art person but you don't have to agree with someone about everything to recognize that they produced a valuable tool that isn't related to the point of disagreement.
I didn't realize Fediseer was tied into this whole mess. I've been recommending it as an alternative because it's much better than any opaque blocklist by bad actors could ever be. I knew db0 was an ai art person but you don't have to agree with someone about everything to recognize that they produced a valuable tool that isn't related to the point of disagreement.
db0@o76923 The Fediseer is not tied to anything. Neither is the AI horde. This whole article is guilt-by-association nonsense.
Kee Hinckley@twokitties @lisamelton “But unlike email, many servers won't let you talk to some of your friends, even if your friends never send spam or hate speech”
This actually does happen with email, but since it’s behind the scenes at corporate-run servers, most of us aren’t aware of it. Partly because this is one of the things that made it so hard to run small email servers that people gave up trying and most of us have email accounts at large services. I suspect blocklists will do the same thing to Mastodon…drive people to large “safe” servers.
LisPi@nazgul @twokitties @lisamelton The #email #cartel / #oligopoly also does arbitrarily block servers for shit & giggles.
Or malfunctioning heuristics & AI-based reputation shenanigans (how could this go wrong⸮).
No need for hatespeech, just try hosting a server from an IP range that hasn't been "blessed" by Google and Microsoft and you basically have to resort to commercial #SMTP relays to get any reasonable outbound delivery success rate (yes, even if you do DKIM & all right).
@nazgul @twokitties @lisamelton This is also something I want the #antitrust suits to touch on.
Microsoft and Google exert upon email the same sort of #anticompetitive pressures that Amazon exerts upon online shops and parcel delivery.
apophis@nazgul @twokitties @lisamelton in other words, the sort of thing that would seek to defeat the very purpose of activitypub...
The Shinxposter@twokitties Just read through the article, I'm still not sure how Nivenly is related to the admin of mastodon.art?
@zym @twokitties They are not related, at all.
Dźwiedziu@twokitties I would argue against not needing an authenticator app. 2FA by SMS is not secure.
Loosing an account used to address this issue to an transphobic and racist actor, which would be then used for igniting this issue further shouldn't be ruled out.
Not to mention the stress put on the person loosing the account.
I would propose to link a 2FA instruction so one could see that's an option and how to use it if needed.
cheetah_spottycat@twokitties I don't want to live on this planet any more.
And am I the only person who feels like the word "safety" has completely changed it's meaning in online spaces over the last 5 years or so?