Considering what we know about the real and immediate dangers of the climate and environmental crises, how can nearly everyone just carry on as if nothing is wrong?

I'd argue there are three reasons:

#1. The majority of Earth's human inhabitants are so busy trying to keep themselves and their family members alive (housed, fed, safe) that they have literally no time to learn about or be interested in such issues.

#2. The small minority (10%?) of humans who have had the privilege of education, who have the luxury of time, and who feel motivated to care about the climate crisis can in fact do very little about it themselves. Sure, they can buy an EV, ride a bike, or go vegan, but none of that will really make much of a dent because of...

#3. The owners and managers of our society — the governments, industries, billionaire business owners, and corporate media — all of whom have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, in keeping the stores open, the factories running, the airliners flying, and the cruise ships sailing. The longer our rulers can keep assuring everyone that Business As Usual is just fine, the more money they will make. And they believe (though it's likely a delusion) that with enough money and enough power, they and their descendants will be able to survive and even thrive in the 3°C to 5°C world of the future.

#Environment #Climate #ClimateChange #ClimateCrisis #Capitalism #BusinessAsUsual

@breadandcircuses I think there's also a good percentage of #3 who are locked into the same patterns the rest of us are, and even if they may realize the problem, can't see or move outside the structure of human society as it exists today. i.e. "I care about the environment and climate change, so I'm going to build my 20-room, 7-car garage and underground pool mansion with solar panels"
@breadandcircuses Because the changes needed are so radical? "It is easier to imagine the end of the world than to imagine the end of capitalism"
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Not the end of the world, just the end of human civilization as we know it.
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@breadandcircuses It is likely a delusion that the survivors with current money and power will have a good life. It seems like coffee trees will be gone. #EcologicalOvershoot
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#3.5 Americans don't know how much 3°C to 5°C is and they kind of just hear it as 3°F to 5°F

@mattg @breadandcircuses
It doesn't seem so bad. It sounds like it means you get a few really hot days in summer instead of a few hot days, and fewer really cold days in winter.

It doesn't sound like the crops start to fail for years in a row and there's NO FUCKING FOOD.

@petealexharris @breadandcircuses we need to put it in terms that are more accessible.
Like, "pretend you have a fever of 104°F for the next 20 years. How urgently would you like that to be treated?"
Or, "the government just passed a law saying that your thermostat in your house has to be set 7°F higher than usual. Would you like that law repealed?"
@petealexharris @mattg @breadandcircuses I often tell my students that “peak oil“ is going to become a problem for us when there isn’t enough gas to run vehicles in any economical way. And I’m not talking about “driving to and from work.” I’m talking about “there isn’t enough fuel for the big trucks to bring the food from the farms into the cities.“
@breadandcircuses Good analysis, except that you negelect the fact that #1 and #2 have massive power over #3. Protesting, striking, lobbying. It works. It's why we have an 8 hour work day and reasonably safe work conditions. It's why we have national parks. The Green Bans in Australia in the 80s are a great example of how the working class can force action on environmental issues.
@breadandcircuses There's a phrase that has stuck in my head for years, which I learned from the volunteers who left the US to support the Sandinistas in the early 1980s: "People would rather risk their lives than their lifestyles."
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This last one in particular. They imagine their money will buy them safety and some kind of fantasy utopia where despite the lack of all the rest of us, their needs, desires and whims will continue to be met.
@breadandcircuses pessimism is just optimism in possession of all the facts.
@breadandcircuses We live in a system which demands infinite growth. Our money system is built upon credit upon credit. This puts pressure on investors, asset managers, business owners, company managers, salesmen, employees, etc to seek profit as fast as possible. Since more profit is the ultimate end, collaterals such as nature destruction or climate change are accepted & even purposely perpetrated. This insatiable system won’t stop until it destroys itself, or us, or both
@breadandcircuses They don't care about their decedents. Live rich and die old. That's the mantra.
@breadandcircuses #1 is big and enables #3. #2 makes that class of people feel very good about themselves
@breadandcircuses also 1(a): the only *ways* available to people living precarious industry-dependent lives are the very industrial processes that are killing the living environment, and that have already killed much of human agency
@breadandcircuses Simon Wardley calls this “no choice on innovation”, but I hate that label, because it presupposes that market forces will always be preeminent, and always drive towards commoditization and destroy locally emergent ways
@breadandcircuses get us ways to effectively walk away from destructive industrialization (including profligate energy systems and 1000x overproduction) while still feeding our family, and we will walk

@breadandcircuses Sounds about right.

But the behaviour of group 3 is puzzling. They're probably right that they have the resources to survive climate change themselves, given that they are mostly not that young and are likely to be dead anyway by the time the worst effects of climate change kick in.

But if they think their children and grandchildren are going to be OK, that really is one heck of a delusion. Do they really not care about their kids?

@breadandcircuses I don't think that they do believe that their descendants will be able to survive. I think that they DO NOT CARE what happens to anyone at all after their own deaths.

They are deliberately creating a world in which people cannot survive, and that is a crime under international law: it is #genocide

https://www.journeyman.cc/blog/posts-output/2023-05-22-Climate-Change-as-Crime/

Climate Change as Crime

Is consciously contributing to climate change tantamount to genocide? I think it is.

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@breadandcircuses it’s comforting to put #3 into a separate group but, like all of us, they are also embodied brains of types #1 and #2. https://overcast.fm/+2tlXpcTFM

A system only changes when its material dependencies start to fail. And that’s starting to happen because we’ve pushed it to that point.

In the meantime, what will help, I think, is better story-telling https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/111289933670176672

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@breadandcircuses It’s frustrating to see a large problem like #climatechange that’s not getting the attention it needs. We need more awareness that we’re all sailing together on the planet Earth “ship” and will ALL feel the consequences of our action or non-action. Choose #climateaction for a more livable future. 🌎
@breadandcircuses I think a lot of uneducated people in hotter countries are in fact acutely aware of climate change.