Wouter WellingOct 21, 2023
Eugen Rochko

Now would be a good time for all European politicians and journalists to setup accounts on Mastodon.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/musk-considers-removing-x-platform-europe-over-eu-law-insider-2023-10-18/

Musk considers removing X platform from Europe over EU law - Insider

Elon Musk, owner of social media platform X, is considering removing the service formerly called Twitter from Europe in response to a new internet platform regulation in the region, news site Insider <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-considering-taking-twitter-x-out-of-europe-dsa-2023-10?IR=T#:~:text=The%20Tesla%20billionaire%2C%20who%20acquired,accessing%20it%2C%20the%20person%20said" target="_blank">reported</a> on Wednesday.

Reuters
Oct 20, 2023 at 3:04amWeb
Show threadMillions Oct 20, 2023
@Gargron I saw a community note on the site earlier saying this was false does anyone have proof
Show threadJustin MOct 20, 2023
@millions @Gargron it's Elon Musk. The man is as sharp as marbles
Show threadJerameeOct 21, 2023

@Jam123 @millions @Gargron

Between Elon's flip flops, about faces, and outright lies, who ever knows if what he says is true?

Show threadPablo MartiniOct 21, 2023
@Jam123 @millions @Gargron as sharp as when he passed through a digestive system?
Show threadIAGOct 20, 2023
@millions @Gargron people have been saying he'd do it for a few months and he hasn't yet
But even if it's not gonna happen, journalists should leave Twitter anyway
Show threadDidzis 🚂Oct 20, 2023
@millions @Gargron If this was false, why would #Reuters mention this?
Show threadsimronOct 20, 2023
@dzedus @millions @Gargron Actually it looks like Reuters is quoting Business Insider, but they do not have any links or sources, just "rumored" (Edit: checked various articles, everyone is referring to Insider, no other proof)
Show threadDidzis 🚂Oct 20, 2023
@normis @millions @Gargron Good point. But still - if a rumor gets circulated by Reuters, one may want to take it seriously
Show threadMaxi 12x 💉Oct 20, 2023

@dzedus @normis @millions @Gargron Musk has denied it already. But some are saying, this makes it all the likelier. 🤪

https://www.tagesspiegel.de/wirtschaft/vollig-falsch-musk-bestreitet-ruckzug-von-twitter-nachfolger-x-aus-der-eu-10649686.html

„Völlig falsch“: Musk bestreitet Rückzug von Twitter-Nachfolger X aus der EU

Der Tech-Milliardär weist einen US-Bericht zurück, wonach er ein Ende seiner Plattform X aus der EU erwägt. Unterdessen ermittelt die EU-Kommission gegen den Twitter-Nachfolger.

Der Tagesspiegel
Show threadAndreas KOct 20, 2023

@millions @Gargron Yes and no.

There were rumors, that's true.

They were denied after a day.

A test bubble and idle threat, for the moment.

BUT: That does not solve Elon's problem that #dodo it completely utterly non-compliant with DSA/DMA. And there is no trivial way to make it compliant without investing significantly in moderation task forces.

Show threadAndreas KOct 20, 2023

@millions @Gargron
The EU puts major obligations on very large platforms only, because these obligations cause significant costs. The idea is that if you reached that scale, you are profitable enough to afford these measures.

But #dodo was not very profitable before boy genius got his hands on it. And all we know, turning #dodo into Truth Social 2.0 has made it much worse. But they still have the legacy of accounts and thus the very large platform classification, ROTFL.

Show threadTom_HuthOct 20, 2023
@millions @Gargron What's the difference? He is Mr. Inconstancy. He makes up his mind by his mood. Should we ever trust him? I don’t do it. Why should Europeans (Media, Government, Companies, and all others) pay a penny for this stupid theater of hate and misinformation? The NPR Radio story shows, leaving Twitter has almost no impact for traffic. Everyone should have the courage to leave Twitter. Goodbye, we are done with this creep!
Show threadJen, MPH has moved see bioOct 20, 2023
@millions @Gargron I hope it is false, but it’s a shame it’s very believable and I don’t doubt that he probably thought and said these things, even if he doesn’t do it
Show threadDavid H. McCoyOct 20, 2023

@Gargron @binaryphile

He’s bluffing.

Show threadlevampyreOct 20, 2023
@davidhmccoy Oh, I hope he's not. @Gargron @binaryphile
Show threadDavid H. McCoyOct 20, 2023

@levampyre @Gargron @binaryphile

Ha! I know, right?!?

Show threadTom RitchfordOct 20, 2023

@davidhmccoy @Gargron @binaryphile

Bluffing is a tactic where you threaten something you don't want to or can't do in order to get a better result from someone else.

So who exactly is he supposed to be bluffing? The EU isn't going to care if he pulls out of Europe - quite the reverse.

Show threadOpenDNA⚙️Oct 20, 2023
@TomSwirly @davidhmccoy @Gargron @binaryphile You're assuming that he understands that.
Show threadKevin Bonham 🚽🦠👨🏼‍🔬Oct 20, 2023

@davidhmccoy
Another theory is that he's fired or otherwise driven away all of the people that could implement and verify a compliance regime.

Yelling "I won't do it! 😤" Is a way to cover "I can't do it 😞"
@Gargron @binaryphile

Show threadsigi714Oct 20, 2023

@davidhmccoy @Gargron @binaryphile Zuckerberg tried that and got appropried response.

Even that clown can't think he's more indespensable than facebook/instagram/whatsapp.

Show threadCamOct 20, 2023

@Gargron he's probably just sabre-rattling to try to put the EU in an awkward position so they back down on some things. I'd love to say it won't work, but...

Of course, I'd love to be proven wrong.

Show threadamethystdeceiverOct 20, 2023
@bitflipped @Gargron It won't work. There is no threat for the EU in that. Twitter employs next to no one here, spends nothing, probably doesn't even make money in the EU market.
Show threadfurina 💧⚖️Oct 20, 2023
@Gargron oh so this is what’s happening why there’s been a mass migration
Show threadjbergOct 20, 2023
@Gargron musk would be doing Europe a solid.
Show threadNATALiE.EEOct 20, 2023
@Gargron good idea gargron those are two groups of people that fedi desperately needs more of
Show threadJesseTongOct 20, 2023

@Gargron If Musk dare to do that, frankly in my opinion, many will indeed comes to Fediverse platforms, but others will just use other proprietary platforms such as Threads, Bluesky, Facebook, Instagram,... and have a high risk of those platforms doing these things again.

People do find Fediverse platforms so confusing to use, and because of brandim recognition and network effect, they will not recognize the problem of centralized platforms

Show threadCarina SteendamOct 20, 2023
@natsume_shokogami
True, I can't even figure out who is responding to who in my timeline. And what about threads? I find bluesky a lot easier to use.
Show threadConnor CadellinOct 20, 2023
@natsume_shokogami @Gargron Threads also isn't available in Europe.
Show threadDeb4+ aka Deborah DT 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Oct 20, 2023

@Gargron

He'd rather destroy the app than submit. Putz

Show threadSean McCabeOct 20, 2023
@Gargron
The EU is about to block X for promoting misinformation, so Musk is threatening to pull out before they can shut him down? Fine.
Show threadSomeAnoTooterOct 20, 2023
@Gargron #conservative politician can stay on there. Right audience for them there and here they can't push their agenda on people not following. I won't tolerate their crap on my timeline.
Show threadToniOct 20, 2023
@Gargron Pra que quieres los politicos aquí?

Periodistas aun, pero periodistas no mamporreros.
Show threadDmitri ☕️Oct 20, 2023
@Gargron
Show threadMartin Vermeer FCDOct 20, 2023
@Gargron Could we be that fortunate
Show threadApanOct 20, 2023
@Gargron DSA is horrible. Give the politicians the power to tell who is right and who is wrong. Pretty bad that people think its a great thing to let politicians get more power and citizens less power, just beacouse they dislike Elon.
Show threadTom RitchfordOct 20, 2023

@Apan @Gargron

Hello from Europe!

It might shock you to discover that we most prefer our social media without Nazis and Fascists, and our internet without ripoffs - and that we passed laws to prevent these things.

Why Americans fiercely want to be robbed and lied to on the Internet is a matter of bafflement to me at least.

Show threadZagoneOct 20, 2023

The answer of course is we don't -- we've lost control of our government to fascist corporate interests.

@TomSwirly @Apan @Gargron

Show threadSyllus GreenOct 20, 2023
@TomSwirly @Apan @Gargron FREEDOM!!!
Show threadSquiggleOct 20, 2023
@Apan @Gargron Australia recently avoided legislating similar (at least I think it was similar?)
Show threadDion HenareOct 20, 2023
@Apan @Gargron "citizens" don't have any power over twitter. This is about the power of governments versus corporations. As imperfect as they might be, governments are still a much representation of citizens than large corporations run at the whim of someone like Elon Musk.
Show threadArun Shah™Oct 20, 2023
@Gargron mastodon needs to upgrade give direct message and quote posts feature.
Show threadTheriacOct 20, 2023
@arunshah240 @Gargron

you might want to try #Firefish, it has those features
Show threadArun Shah™Oct 20, 2023
@Theriac @Gargron i want mastodon too.
Show threadTheriacOct 20, 2023
@arunshah240 @Gargron
you're in a democracy and an adult, you do you 🙂
Show threadالفجر الباسم Oct 20, 2023
we have that in bassam social and am waiting for more to come bassam depend on soapbox https://gitlab.com/soapbox-pub/soapbox
https://soapbox.pub/
Soapbox / Soapbox · GitLab

A social media frontend with a focus on custom branding and ease of use. https://soapbox.pub

GitLab
Show threadClovis Oct 21, 2023
@arunshah240 you already have DMs on here :)
Show threadTheriacOct 20, 2023
@Gargron

Musk really not reading the room.
Show threadKerry StevensonOct 20, 2023
@Gargron How about quickly adding quoting so they won’t have an excuse to not join?
Show threadSuper Ratboy 64Oct 20, 2023

@Gargron now is the second best time.

The best time was yadda yadda yadda

Show threadJay Thoden van Velzen ☁️​🛡️​Oct 20, 2023

@Gargron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xSFi-Tn2_g

Do it. Do it.

Rollins Band - Do it

YouTube
Show threadtheMamiyaMan 🇺🇦 🇨🇦Oct 20, 2023
@Gargron No one should remain on that shit site.
Show threaddigfishOct 20, 2023
@Gargron be prepared for new user loads on the instances from Europe
Show threadKarl Name Oct 20, 2023
@Gargron later on he said, he will not.
Unfortunately, all are going to Bluesky.
Reasons for not chosing Mastodon are already communicated.