John GruberThe ads in Apple News are both high-class and high-resolution.
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Kevin Karhan 
@gruber shit like that is WHY I'll always keep adblockers on and install evewn more adblockers...
Albert Kinng@kkarhan @gruber Advertisements aren't designed specifically for people like us. Trust me, the majority of users aren't even familiar with the concept of ad-blocking. It dawned on me when I asked my audience if they faced any difficulties with Dropbox, and not a single person raised their hand or knew what Dropbox was. It just goes to show that sometimes we tend to assume our bubble represents the entire globe, but that's not always the case.
John Gordon@Albertkinng @kkarhan @gruber Ads on Facebook are targeted based on my Groups and are highly relevant to me. Almost as good as magazine ads.
Everywhere else they are shit.
It’s almost as though all this ad tech stuff is a big con.
@jgordon @Albertkinng @gruber #Advertising is a #Scam.
But that's just me.being cynical and tired of shit.
Peter Marks@gruber Marking them as “Ad” below the image is a dark pattern that Apple should not be doing. Sometimes I’m scrolling through a news story and trying to understand the image only to find that it’s an ad.
St. Chris@gruber What is this, fucking Taboola?
Rhys Morgan@FormerlyStC @gruber Probably!
Ryan Jones@gruber is you know who was you know what…
TheEJJ 🇨🇦@gruber I would happily, happily, pay for Apple News at twice the cost if all it did was provide a clean, ad free way to address paywalls.
Chris Del Rosario ☕️@TheEjj same. I think they’re building up demand. 😂 they’ll release it next year as Apple News Plush.
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Jordan Krahn@gruber the most egregious is that they’re still there even when subscribing to Apple One.
@gruber A premium user experience worthy of the “+” moniker, indeed.
Alex@gruber for the consumer Ads are content cancer. It grows more and more and gets worse everyday.
Nobody wants cancer, right?
Nobody wants cancer, right?
Craig Hockenberry@gruber NOW YOU KNOW WHAT TO GET ME FOR XMAS
Frank@chockenberry @gruber A large married couple?
Bill Lloyd@gruber They make the new X ads look good. (They do get slightly less awful if Settings > Privacy and Security > Apple Advertising > Personalized Ads is enabled).
ruffin@wklj I have that turned on! These are the ads I get *with* personalization enabled.
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Chris Dreiling@gruber They are just the absolute worst. I would pay more monthly to get rid of this garbage
@chrisdreiling but you shouldn’t have to!
Jay@gruber That Airbnb tenant story is wild though.
Adam Chandler@gruber my complaints and I know it’s not Apple but they should have held the line and made news+ publishers be ad-free.
Edmund@gruber But did you buy one of those cool gifts?
Samer Farha@gruber even though I pay for News+, I still see those ads. So now I have pihole, which isn’t really what I want to do with my time.
Don Whiteside@samerfarha I think I’m gonna test out nextdns.io precisely because I don’t want to fuck around with pihole. Also means I don’t need to live without/deal with vpn nonsense when I’m away from home.
@donw let me know what you think!
@donw ok, so I took a look and they have a free tier (300K requests/no sign up required for 7 days), so I’m testing it out. So far, I like everything about it. Has a lot of options for blocking, malware, etc. Works fast. Does profiles for Apple products so you can use it that way, or tie your IP to their service and use it on your router.
One wish: let me choose which country I show up as for different services…
Thanks for the heads up!
@samerfarha Yeah I'm trying it on my phone as well since it's pretty low-risk. Seems good. Might add a profile on my laptop as well. I have some reluctance on making the jump to house-wide since it lacks something I'd have with a pi hole: a simple interface to press a button and bypass when there’s a possible issue. I need to dig further, maybe there's apps or APIs for that.
@donw yeah, I’m just going to use it on my ipad and phone because that’s where I live and see ads. My work laptop has an adblocker, and my personal mac is mostly a headless server.
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@donw @samerfarha Curious about this. I could set NextDNS as my upstream on my home router but I’m the same about wanting control about whether it’s on or off available directly on the affected device.
@fedward @samerfarha I decided to live dangerously and installed/turned it on in my ubiquity router. It’s easy to toggle it on and off with their cli tool. I may just create another profile and have that use no black lists, then attach that to a different AP name to have a quick way to move most of the devices around.
@fedward @samerfarha Interestingly the blacklists on nextdns I am using seems to include a few that impact email-based stuff. I'm on the fence about whether this bothers me since it's not like I chose to opt out before now. On the other hand I find myself with zero curiosity about what I'm not seeing here.
@samerfarha @donw I switched to using the iCloud privacy thing after years of having remote images turned off, so now I’m just polluting their stats with a proxy run by Apple. No idea if that’s good or bad.
Eric Hustvedt@gruber as I recall, the ads got extra stupid after Apple opened it up to other ad networks.
Spencer Callaghan@gruber there should be no ads. I pay for this.
@spencer Well then how would the publishers make money?
Blaine@gruber I would assume, possibly incorrectly, that Apple is paying the publishers with out subscription fees. If they aren’t they should be.
Zach Weigand@gruber @spencer Apple is in a unique position to provide targeted payments to publishers. Can you imagine a service based on usage (similar to a pay as you go phone plan) where you just use Apple News as much as you want and pay for what your usage via Apple monthly. No paywalls/extra subscriptions. Just a pay as you consume approach.
Not a new idea, it’s just never been tried by an extremely well-established company, just upstarts.
Patrick O'Sullivan@gruber Apple News has this thin veneer of high quality content that quickly degrades into this crap that makes you think that maybe you accidentally linked out to a browser without an ad blocker.
Merlin Mann@gruber The least-profitable publicly-excruciating thing they do.
yertle@hotdogsladies @gruber or the Mac App Store
J.A. Bell 
@gruber saw the same ad in the same article and thought the same damned thing.
Chris Coleman@gruber Hey, I pay like $30 a month for the privilege of seeing these ads!
Jonathan Z Simon@gruber some Apple News ads are also just plain creepy
a Witty Name@gruber I deleted Apple News after finding out I can’t block those ads. Content blocker does not work in Apple News.
Another info: Safari has not honored host file in a long time in macOS.
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