AnnieStenSep 30, 2023
Rosamundi
A British Prime Minister declaring war on people and their right to be safe in urban areas is a bold move, let's see if it pays off.
Sunak vows to stop 20mph zones and review LTNs https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66965714
Sunak vows to stop 20mph zones and review LTNs

PM says measures like 20mph zones should not be forced on drivers but Labour accuses him of hypocrisy.

BBC News
Sep 30, 2023 at 7:31amWeb
Show threadRosamundiSep 30, 2023
This is what you accept when you object to 20mph speed limits. This is what you shrug and say "yeah, that's fine, happy to accept this rate of death" over.
Show threadPedestriansfirstSep 30, 2023
@rosamundi It’s Tories for more dead children. #tories
Show threadGordSep 30, 2023
@rosamundi the anti-20 seem to like to quote Shrek: “Some of you may die, but that is a price I am willing to pay”.
Show threadJames DevineSep 30, 2023

@rosamundi Great graphic! Very strong illustration of the benefits of 20mph zones.

I fear it's not going to work on Sunak or the Daily Mail. The life is just a number to them, they've already decided that pedestrians, cyclists and those who think we should at least try to destroy the planet a little more slowly (or not at all?), are the enemy and must be fed into the machine.

I keep thinking of that poor girl who was killed by the 4x4 that ran over a school picnic.

Bicycles are the answer.

Show threadDreadnought HolidaySep 30, 2023

@rosamundi The thing that graphic can't capture is the number of people *that aren't hit at all*.

A few nights ago a jogger clad entirely in black inexplicably ran straight across the road in front of me like a kamikaze ninja, realised his mistake and then just froze like a rabbit in the headlights. Emergency stop, no contact. I can't swear I was doing twenty exactly, but it was definitely 20ish. At thirty I think I'd have struggled not to clip him.

Show threadTofu GolemSep 30, 2023

@rosamundi
E = ½mv²

I think the pandemic showed that the average goober doesn't understand what an exponent is.

Show threadMcNullaSep 30, 2023
@rosamundi
I can tell the cars that drive 30mph on my residential street. Very scary. No need to go over twenty, the neighborhood is small.
Show threadMiruOct 1, 2023
@rosamundi The problem with just changing speed limits is nobody actually reads those signs when driving. People just go off vibe. The only way to fix the issue is to stop building everything behind an acre of parking that never gets used and to stop making suburban alleys as wide as freeways. Make walkable areas with transit options and reasonably sized streets, and nobody's gonna want to drive like they're on the Autobahn anymore.
Show threadRosamundiOct 1, 2023
@miru well, the ones that don't read the signs get to read the letter about the fine they need to pay.
Agreed that road design is needed to design out the visual clues that say "speeding here is fine." The borough where I live did this and it's worked well.
Show threadPatrick H. LaukeOct 1, 2023
@rosamundi they've accepted deaths from covid at the time (and continue to ignore the risks to this day), so...not surprised
Show thread🐧DaveNull🐧 ☣️pResident Evil☣Oct 1, 2023

@rosamundi For people who use sane, standard, IS units, 20 MPH ≈ 32 km/h.

Removing 30 km/h zones to please stupid car drivers who rather kill people to "gain" a ridiculous, insignificant amount of time (that will be spend at red lights/stop sign anyway…), than "be late", is utterly stupid…

Show threadTrit’Oct 1, 2023

@devnull @rosamundi I thought that UK had finally adopted the SI (I stands for INTERNATIONAL) units.

Well, the sickos’ country (aka the USA) had signed the Metre Convention in 1875, and they still use the moronic, illogical and non-standard old UK imperial units…

Show threadRosamundiOct 1, 2023
@TritTriton @devnull I'm British, we use an unholy mixture of whatever the hell we feel like at the time.
Show threadSteffen ChristensenOct 1, 2023
@rosamundi In metric, that's 30 km/h, 50 km/h, and 60 km/h.
Show threadSasha FirsovOct 1, 2023

@rosamundi Always thought that car traffic should be elevated and leave ground level for pedestrial and animals.

Freeways system created the concentration death camps for animals as being enjailed by walled roads they can not escape the drought, fire, and flood. The "animal bridges" are not right solution. Looking forward for cars replacement by flying personal vehicles and commercial traffic dug underground.

Show threadDavid GrieveSep 30, 2023
@rosamundi the same people bleating on about the 20mph zones are the same type who complained when they first introduced 70mph on the motorways, or searbelts, or MOTs, or anything ever that made cars safer. And why is nobody mentioning that the vast majority of towns and villages in Scotland have been 20mph for years?!
Show threadRosamundiSep 30, 2023

@davidgrieve there's an old British TV programme about the introduction of alcohol driving limits and it's fascinating as a snapshot of what people thought about something which is totally socially unacceptable now.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W_tqQYmgMQg

Legal Drunk Drivers from the 1960s

YouTube
Show threadDavid S (inactive)Oct 2, 2023
@rosamundi Trying to other everyone is a bold move. The opposition paries should immediately start on heavy "the Tories just declared war on pedestrians" campaigns. Keep pushing the point. Most people will stop and think "hey, I'm a pedestrian, why do the Tories hate me? I'm not voting for them!". But the opposition parties won't. I suspect it's not a win votes move, it's a win votes with the Tory membership move.
Show threadaracerOct 2, 2023
@rosamundi how does he keep a straight face when saying "For too long politicians have focused on the short-term decisions with little regard for the long-term impact"?