Jan Penfrat
schrotthaufen@ilumium @aral A priest got the same sentence for sexually abusing a minor. Just to put her sentence into perspective. https://www.kirche-und-leben.de/artikel/missbrauch-acht-monate-haft-fuer-priester-unguenstige-sozialprognose
Menno Finlay-Smits
Jordan Biserkov@schrotthaufen @ilumium @aral
If my understanding is correct, it's actually MUCH, MUCH worse!
1. The public prosecutor's office initially wanted to end the proceedings with a penalty order. Then the sentence would have been 4 months in prison and suspended because the defendant would have admitted his guilt.
2. The defendant did not appear during the trial.
3. In their closing argument, the prosecution demanded a 12 month suspended prison sentence.
WTF?!?
If my understanding is correct, it's actually MUCH, MUCH worse!
1. The public prosecutor's office initially wanted to end the proceedings with a penalty order. Then the sentence would have been 4 months in prison and suspended because the defendant would have admitted his guilt.
2. The defendant did not appear during the trial.
3. In their closing argument, the prosecution demanded a 12 month suspended prison sentence.
WTF?!?
@jbiserkov @ilumium @aral If a suspended sentence is the same as parole, then your reading is correct. Additionally, the priest was had been accused of sexual abuse before, but no evidence was found.
mike805@ilumium People are sick and tired of random disruptions. When the native tribal police in the USA roughly handled climate activists who blocked the entrance to the Burning Man festival, there was a lot of cheering.
Civil disobedience is directly targeted at the thing you want to stop, such as blocking demolition of a building or cutting down of a forest. Just blocking roads is random harassment.
I'd go with fine and suspended sentence, and make it clear that next offense you serve the time.
@ilumium There is nothing the ordinary person just trying to live their life can do about the climate. So blocking their ability to get to work or get home just makes people angry. If I am trying to get somewhere and somebody decides to block the road, what exactly can I do to meet his demands or negotiate with him?
So does attacking art, throwing paint on the Brandenberg Gate, and similar vandalism.
And blocking traffic increases emissions, so it looks pretty hypocritical.
Metafrastis@ilumium If only one of them had the courage to bring this before a European court, these new drastic German laws would soon fall. Unfortunately I think they prefer to be martyrs instead of doing everything intelligent that‘s needed to advance climate legislation
@dgavin I really don't think the desire of martyrdom is why they don't sue. It's rather the lack of time, resources and expertise to actually appeal to any court, let alone Europe's highest.
@ilumium If I was a lawyer, I would work 20% of my time pro bono for them, just to bring this to a European court. Like young people of Portugal have just done to fight for their right for survival and against climate change