so does mastodon have/render threads in some way shape or form, or do they just show up as replies?

I'm asking bc I'm curious what the average user experience is so that I can cater my content accordingly!

(not looking for a solution for my own viewing experience)

@acegikmo Experience using Mastodon from the we browser:

I see something go by that looks like the last part of a thread. I click on it and scroll back, and read the thread. Then I can skip past these thread messages as I read the rest of my feed.

Not ideal, but it works.

@acegikmo if the followup post @'s yourself then people are more likely to get that it is a reply and click on it and scroll up.
@acegikmo I think it depends on the client really.
@acegikmo It renders them kinda like twitter, I believe the sequence of replies from op always shows up first
@acegikmo depends on what you use. Internally they're replies. Toot! on iOS has the ability to show thread lines to show what's a reply to what.

@acegikmo There's some app out there that will threadify a sequence of mastodon replies for you.

I guess what I'm saying is that the data structure is a tree but the GUI does a prefix-notation depth-first display.

@davidr I'm mostly wondering what the average most common reader experience is like
@acegikmo vanilla mastodon doesn't support it, popular fork glitch-soc does
@acegikmo all clients I know don't have any special thread formatting. A bunch of instances have raised character limits which I vastly prefer over seeing (1/5) at the end of a post
@acegikmo Works the same as on Twitter, basically. Your own reply chain appears first, and then everyone else’s replies. This applies at least to both the official web client and Ivory.
@acegikmo elk.zone gives you almost 1to1 twitter experience. You can give it a try it's just an online client.
@acegikmo
As I understand it, it's a mess.

@acegikmo yes, in that competent clients can recognize the pattern and render it, and offer affordances so that people naturally make them.

https://elk.zone is particularly good in both ways, and also stellar at rendering "DMs" differently, and making them available under a separate top-level nav.

Elk

A nimble Mastodon web client

Elk

@mogul hmmm, I really don't like the fragmentation in the viewing experience ;-;

the medium is the message etc etc

@acegikmo just took this screenshot from this set of replies including replies to a specific reply. Originating posts on top, one I clicked on in middle ,replies to my specific selection below. Tusky on Android. To me this feels closest to Twitter setup, which I like.
@acegikmo Try https://phanpy.social/ its a much improved user experience for mastodon!
Phanpy

Minimalistic opinionated Mastodon web client

@acegikmo i only saw the reply at the top of my feed.
Had to click on it to see the initial post :/
@Toreole hmm, see this is where twitter usually shows another post from the same thread, right?

@acegikmo Mastodon puts the messages into the feed as if the other messages in the thread didn't exist, with the latest message first. Twitter (when I last used it) grouped the messages into threads and shows the threads as threads (first message first) in the feed. Otherwise, my experience is similar as with Twitter.

There are people who split up their blog posts and tweet them as threads on Twitter and it works. This behavior is annoying on Mastodon and I had to stop following someone who toots like that