SwiftOnSecurityAug 8, 2023

OH MY GOD. I could not get rear quarter windows of my car to go up the last month. Too lazy to take to dealer. So I subscribed to Lexus dealer diagnostics docs for $25 for 2 days.

I go to troubleshooting section.
1.) Battery connected?
2.) Engine on?
3.) Window lock off?

FML🤬

Show threadRyan The Red 🖥️🚲🍺🏳️‍🌈
@SwiftOnSecurity Even from the driver's controls? Most cars still let it operate the windows with the lock on, so doing otherwise seems counterintuitive.
Aug 8, 2023 at 5:07pmWeb
Show threadSwiftOnSecurityAug 8, 2023
@redrummy it's a convertible so it's unique
Show thread__Miguel_Aug 8, 2023
@redrummy @SwiftOnSecurity I would also expect that. On basically every car I've been in that had window lock systems, in all of them the driver side control would still allow commands to all the windows.
Show threadSwiftOnSecurityAug 8, 2023
@nanianmichaels the weird convertible windows are controlled by a master switch that gets disabled
Show thread__Miguel_Aug 8, 2023

@SwiftOnSecurity OH, they're not the regular windows.

That makes more sense, there's probably a chance for PEBCAK (or in this case, PEBCASW) in some combination of window state and roof retraction if you allow them to move willy nilly 😝

Show threadYossiAug 8, 2023

@redrummy @SwiftOnSecurity I have never seen a car that lets even the driver control the windows when the window lock is active.

And it's extremely stupid.

What possible reason can there be for the window lock to exist other than to stop the kids in the back from screwing around with the windows?

So I'm on the freeway, little twerp in the back opens the window and holds down his button. Now all I can do is hit the window lock and both of us are locked out.

Well done, terrorists win.

Show threadRyan The Red 🖥️🚲🍺🏳️‍🌈Aug 8, 2023
@_yossi_ @SwiftOnSecurity Yeah, because kids and pets. Most cars I've seen still let the driver have control so I guess you haven't seen that many. It's pretty common.
Show threadYossiAug 8, 2023

@redrummy @SwiftOnSecurity OK, bet.

Partial list of cars where the driver can not control the other windows in the car (except the driver's window) while the window lock is active:

2000 Honda civic
2004 Lexus LS430
2010 Toyota prius
2016 Honda crv
201? Toyota seienna
2020 Chevy bolt
2020 Honda odyssey
@SwiftOnSecurity's car.

But I clearly haven't driven many cars. Maybe you can supply an example?

Show threadSkean Harshly KC1WKVAug 8, 2023

@_yossi_ @redrummy @SwiftOnSecurity Surprised to see Chevy bolt on this list. Had several Silverados and 2 Equinoxes since '04, and I'm fairly certain all of them allowed driver control of all windows when lock was enabled.

Also '12 Subaru Outback, '15 Forester, '21 Mazda CX5 and '23 Hyundai Santa Cruz all allow driver control of all windows with lock engaged.

Edit: was just corrected by 'the boss' re the Mazda. So I checked. She's right.