Bingo LittleAug 3, 2023
Sascha Pallenberg ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ โ™ป๏ธ โšก

A 2023 map of every high speed railway in the US, complete with stations and service frequencies ๐Ÿ˜Ž

#USA #Railway #Mobility #dataisbeautiful

P.S. Damn this went through the roof. Thank you ๐Ÿ™

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Aug 2, 2023 at 4:15pmTusky
Show threadPavelAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg tip for @TerribleMaps โ˜๏ธ
Show threadChris Alemany๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg I just came across the same for Canada! #trains #transport #rail #highspeed
Show threadthe_halmaturus (moving to FireFish)Aug 2, 2023
@pallenberg ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
Show threadCacophonatedAug 2, 2023

@pallenberg

Sad

Show threadAURonline ๐ŸกAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg I know itโ€˜s a joke post, but there is one โ€žrealโ€œ high speed line in the US with the Acela connection between Washington, D.C. and Boston (although only part of it is really high speed and the high speed is only 250 km/h): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acela
Acela - Wikipedia

Show threadJJ KrawczykAug 2, 2023
@AUROnline @pallenberg
Yeah canโ€™t we count those dozen or so miles in Rhode Island where it can get up to top speed? ๐Ÿ˜†
Show threadSascha Pallenberg ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ โ™ป๏ธ โšกAug 3, 2023
@JJKrawczyk @AUROnline ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜œ
Show threadFish HeadAug 2, 2023

@AUROnline @pallenberg

โ€œThe average speed over the entire route is 70.3 mph (113 km/h). โ€ฆ Amtrak has identified 224 bridges along Acela's route that are beyond their design life.โ€

Show threadDarwin WoodkaAug 2, 2023
@AUROnline @pallenberg pathetic. High speed rail should never have grade level crossings.
Show threadEllenInEdmonton Aug 2, 2023
@AUROnline @pallenberg
Haha, and I remember riding that fast on the trains in Japan in 1967! At the time, they had an odometer on the wall of every car. Now, it's just the regular service. They still have slow rail, for a lower price but the #shinkansen easily competes with air traffic.
Show threadPaul Wermer, CC BY-NC-SA 4.0Aug 2, 2023
@pallenberg that's a very misleading map. Brightline serves 5 stations in FL. (/ Sardonic)
Show threadMartin HoffmannAug 2, 2023
@PaulWermer @pallenberg Brightline isnโ€™t high-speed rail (yet). The Northeast Corridor, however, is โ€œon a few sections in Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and New Jerseyโ€ (quoting Wikipedia).
Show threadSascha Pallenberg ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ โ™ป๏ธ โšกAug 2, 2023
@PaulWermer anything below 250km/h isn't highspeed
Show threadPaul Wermer, CC BY-NC-SA 4.0Aug 2, 2023
@pallenberg
Yeah, I can support that standard.
Show threadDenverComicGuyAug 3, 2023
@PaulWermer @pallenberg Amtrak will hit that speed next year when they introduce their new rolling stock!
Show threadPaul Wermer, CC BY-NC-SA 4.0Aug 3, 2023
@DenverComicGuy @pallenberg how much of the Boston to DC track will support the high speed capability? (Serious question, I'm regularly on the Providence - Boston segment, and 10 years ago on the Providence-NY segment; I got the sense the track was not fully capable)
Show threadDenverComicGuyAug 3, 2023
@PaulWermer @pallenberg I think the NYC-DC section is the only one which will hit 160 mph.
Show threadChrisAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg what do you expect from third world countries?
Show threadReindeR RustemaAug 2, 2023
@skubo @pallenberg expect China to build railroads in that country in exchange for some natural resources.
Show threadSpeed Paste RobotAug 2, 2023

@pallenberg hybrid buses might just be the answerโ€ฆ it takes less political will and the roads (such as they are) are already here.

I miss Fung Wah and Lucky Star can you tell?

Show threadMagnus AhltorpAug 2, 2023
@speedpasterobot @pallenberg That assumes road maintenance is free. From a company perspective, thatโ€™s true. From a societal perspective, itโ€™s not. Buses are needed as well, though. Trains are good for long distance and high capacity lines.
Show threadCubeOfCheeseAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg I was waiting for the gif to start playing ๐Ÿคฆ
Show threadInformatixAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg Wasn't America mostly settled by trans continental railway? Really poor :-/
Show threadCrazyITAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg mal wo gesehen und gespeichert
Show threadKevin RussellAug 2, 2023

@CrazyIT @pallenberg

Brain freeze with fireworks. look at that.

Twelve years. It is almost beyond comprehension.

This is proof we can easil replace the energy systems needed to end carbon fuels.

Impressive. astounding.

Show threadCrazyITAug 2, 2023
@kevinrns @pallenberg I think it was just not an option for China to give everyone a car and build Autobahnen. ๐Ÿคฃ
Show threadKevin RussellAug 2, 2023

@CrazyIT @pallenberg

A recognition of that wisdom, so sorely needed here and elsewhere, is devotely to be wished for.

China is a big country, those are plane trips being replaced, bus trips, slow train trips. These are High Speed Trains. It is a solution using physics.

Show threadCrazyITAug 2, 2023
@kevinrns @pallenberg china will laugh in 2030 about the western states. Or before ๐Ÿ˜‚
Show threadKevin RussellAug 2, 2023

@CrazyIT @pallenberg

Sorry, are these real posts or just laugh points of no real interest?

Show threadCrazyITAug 2, 2023
@kevinrns @pallenberg unfortunately too real. the laughter is more desperation
Show threadAlexAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg @gitarra thatโ€™s for @TerribleMaps
Show threadJames Glave Aug 2, 2023
@pallenberg Stealing this to adapt for my own country.
Show threadFish HeadAug 2, 2023

@pallenberg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_Europe

High-speed rail in Europe - Wikipedia

Show threadwaarismijnhoofdAug 2, 2023
@ScottAkenhead @pallenberg this map is very incorrect, it suggest all the <200 mph trains are on there, but they arenโ€™t. Thereโ€™s hundreds of those in Europe, map would be completely dark grey in Western Europe (eg Netherlands)
Show threadRalf OltmannsAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg Quite detailed, I have to admit.
Show threadUrsidinoj/The BjornsdottirsAug 2, 2023

@pallenberg good. now they need to start building out more low speed pax rail, and coherent timetables on destination transit.

high speed rail isn't much more efficient than a plane.

Show thread๐”…icyclet๐“ฝ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฐAug 2, 2023

@pallenberg

Meanwhile...

Show threadTrippingBallsThroughHistoryAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg devastating
Show threadMugsysRapSheet Blog โ˜‘๏ธAug 2, 2023

@pallenberg
I posted this on #TheBirdSite in 2021:

PROPOSAL: 21st Century version of Lincoln's Trans Continental Railroad: Build maglev rail lines along/over interstate highways. We build the tracks. Airlines build the trains. Dramatically reduce major CO2 source: domestic air travel. #GND #ClimateChange

Show threadMagnus AhltorpAug 2, 2023
@MugsysRapSheet @pallenberg Good highways have lots of curves to prevent drivers from falling asleep. Good rail tracks have as few curves as possible to permit high speeds. It is normally also extremely expensive to retrofit compared to building new. Along might work better than above, but only if corners can be cut to reduce curves. Is land use rights the primary problem you want to solve?
Show threadMugsysRapSheet Blog โ˜‘๏ธAug 3, 2023

@ahltorp @pallenberg
I've driven cross country by Interstate and encountered few curves (certainly no hard corners.)

Bullet trains in Japan & China are likewise built along/within/over/under existing highways. #MagLev

Show threadMagnus AhltorpAug 3, 2023
@MugsysRapSheet @pallenberg I donโ€™t know about the highways you have used, but well designed highways have slow curves to make you turn your steering wheel slightly. I donโ€™t know about bullet trains in China, but in Japan they are not โ€œalongโ€ highways, they are normally nowhere near. Sometimes they are near more local roads, because they go into city centers, but then they are more straight than those roads. The new Maglev being built is even more straight. High speeds need more straight tracks.
Show threadMugsysRapSheet Blog โ˜‘๏ธAug 3, 2023
@ahltorp @pallenberg
I've never seen an interstate highway with a curve so sharp it requires traffic to slow considerably.
Show threadMagnus AhltorpAug 3, 2023
@MugsysRapSheet @pallenberg Thatโ€™s because you donโ€™t drive 300 km/h with people in the back sitting at a table drinking wine from regular glasses.
Show threadMugsysRapSheet Blog โ˜‘๏ธAug 3, 2023

@ahltorp @pallenberg
Not that many sharp turns (and for the few that exist, we can easily compensate for.)

Definitely not an excuse not to pursue the idea. #MagLev

Show threadFrances LarinaAug 2, 2023

@pallenberg

On the other hand, the US High Speed Rail industry is saving a bundle on not needing to hire more cartographers.

Show threadJeremy MallinAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg ๐Ÿ’”
Show threadsunshineAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg Thanks, I hate it!
Show threadRichardAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg I sure hope it's not counting Acela as "high speed!"
Show thread(((Jann Gobble)))๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg Well, that's covering up "higher" speed rail (125mph) of which there are several inter-city systems.
Show threadKinetixAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg
This could be extended to all of North America pretty easily, no?
Show threadSascha Pallenberg ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ผ โ™ป๏ธ โšกAug 3, 2023
@kinetix indeed
Show threadTim SticklandAug 2, 2023

@pallenberg

This is what the French are doing.
Trains v planes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65687665

France bans short-haul flights to cut carbon emissions

All domestic air routes are stopped where the same journey could be made by train in under 2.5 hours.

Show threadOwen MeheganAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg
Acela doesn't count?
Show threadclacke: exhausted pixie dream boy ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ’™๐Ÿ’›Aug 5, 2023

@literatesavant @pallenberg "Acela trains are the fastest in the Americas, reaching 150 miles per hour (240 km/h)"

Arguably above the threshold, but apparently they only go that speed on 10% of the route?

Show threadGusAug 2, 2023
@pallenberg Wait, it's taking a while to load hereโ€ฆ ๐Ÿคญ
Show threadKerry NiceAug 3, 2023
@pallenberg Australia has a pretty comprehensive high speed rail system as well. I'm tempted to add a dotted line between Melbourne and Sydney where a high speed line has been promised at every election since the 1980s.
Show threadDrew DaudelinAug 3, 2023
@pallenberg some of my favorite train rides are on this map!!
Show threadMark EvansAug 3, 2023
@pallenberg nice. So fast you canโ€™t see โ€˜em.
Show threadNicole ParsonsAug 3, 2023

@pallenberg

#KochNetwork has impeded:
1. Public Health
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/09/koch-network-tries-to-counter-biden-public-option-obamacare.html

https://www.vox.com/2014/7/10/5887309/oops-the-koch-brothers-may-have-accidentally-helped-obamacare

2. Pandemic response
https://jacobin.com/2021/12/right-wing-think-tanks-herd-immunity-death
https://www.exposedbycmd.org/2022/12/21/koch-funded-litigation-group-fights-to-protect-covid-misinformation/

3. Elections
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/inside-the-koch-backed-effort-to-block-the-largest-election-reform-bill-in-half-a-century

4. Public transit
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/26/koch-activists-phoenix-ban-light-rail

5. Broadband infrastructure
https://www.wired.com/story/koch-brothers-are-cities-new-obstacle-to-building-broadband/

6. High speed rail
https://archive.attn.com/stories/295/how-two-billionaires-are-destroying-high-speed-rail-america

7. Democracy itself
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/23/koch-bankrolls-election-denier-candidates

8. Public education
https://www.forbes.com/sites/petergreene/2023/01/27/dark-money-and-education-parent-grass-roots-groups/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/10/16/koch-network-says-it-wants-remake-public-education-that-means-destroying-it-says-author-new-book-billionaire-brothers/

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