Alice Averlong🏳️⚧️part of the horror of working with old SBCs is finding out exactly what they mean by "we've got official linux support!"
TRUSTY TAHR?! YOU WANT ME TO USE UBUNTU 14.04?
look I have two DOS machines within reach and I'm running a windows 95 VM right now (and I have win95 and win98 machines fully setup in my household) and I won't even touch ubuntu 16.04
linear cannon@foone it could be worse! i have something where that means "a heavily patched Linux 2.6.38 and barebones Yocto rootfs are provided. good luck!"
Shyra “Tech” Ambrosia 
spork (pathetic girlfailure)@foone
i was about to say "wait, isn't Trusty not that old" before I realized that 2014 was nine years ago
I'm aging and dying here
i was about to say "wait, isn't Trusty not that old" before I realized that 2014 was nine years ago
I'm aging and dying here
Frank
@flamingspork "Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron), released on 24 April 2008," AHHHHHHHHHH
Ozzelot 
@fcatte @flamingspork *shrivels up and dies*
Mira 
@flamingspork @foone my first non vm was 10.04, I and I learned python before 3.0 came out. Imagine how old I feel
Tai xzo@flamingspork @foone Same, for a second I thought 14.04 was Lucid Lynx.
Ash@foone reminded of working with satellite receiver cards. They had Linux support my boss assured me, after telling me he bought them sight-unseen. Sure they did, they supported a 3 year old red hat Linux release with a closed source kernel module and no updates for newer kernels. Or security updates. And don’t get me started on the USB ones that only worked with win98, when XP was out.
Christopher E. Stith@foone full hardware support with our out-of-tree patched kernel based on 2.4.3
*sigh*Ber nard@foone not only single board, but also a single distro version :D
Jess@foone this is why i moved to used x86 business class hardware. Lenovo, HP, Dell, etc. SBCs still have great uses but now the RPi is p much the best option for "stability" and such...
Or arch linux arm
Or arch linux arm
Pointing Device@foone "We heard all you guys are not that particular about systemd, we have just the Linux for you"
Tabby@foone look, it was under official support for 5 whole *months* after the board was GA.
@foone That's worse than Ubuntu Touch. Quite the achievement.
But then again, that tahr is really trusty.
But then again, that tahr is really trusty.
Wanja@foone Forget old SBCs, I've seen *new ones* with Linux kernels that are many years out of date by the time the SBC ships.
Am I?@foone
May I recommend @yoctoproject for these situations? it's actually quite fun making this kind of stuff work once you get the hand of it
May I recommend @yoctoproject for these situations? it's actually quite fun making this kind of stuff work once you get the hand of it
Yocto Project@ami @yoctoproject thanks for the suggestion, but that's what I do professionally :)
Billy O'Neal@foone Considering 14.04 is itself no longer in support I would argue claiming support but requiring that version is a lie
Hamish M (VK3FSB)@foone Armbian?
@hmoffatt this is an x86 board, so no
@foone although there is https://www.armbian.com/uefi-x86/ not that I've ever tried it, and not going to work for you if it really needs UEFI
Generic Intel / AMD
Better then Ubuntu? No Canonical proprietary solutions. Better then Debian? More recent package base. Better then both: HiDPI support for GRUB and desktop (automated adjustments on big screen resolutions), immutable firmware (kernel upgrade locked to additionally enhance stability), NVIDIA graphics acceleration with proprietary driver, Intel graphics acceleration also works out of the box, preinstalled Google …
Neko May@foone You'd love my Technologic Systems TS-7200 then! (At least with that, all the resources for it are still up from the manufacturer, 2.4 Linux kernel and all!)