Rose Ⓐ 🏳️‍⚧️ (it/its)Jul 23, 2023

Seeing more and more autistic people being accused of being AI.

This hatred of the way AI interacts is a disability issue. It is a neurodivergence issue.

I want to be clear with this message. This always came from a place of ableism. Ableism is fucking rampant in even leftist communities. Any leftist group that allows this shit to go on not only will never achieve anything meaningfully leftist, it is straight up our enemy.

Don't be the enemy of disabled people.

(Y'all should boost this one)

#ActuallyAutistic @actuallyautistic #Neurodivergent #ableism #Anarchism #Anarchy #Anarchist #Communism

Show threadJParsonsJul 23, 2023
@RosethornRangerTTV @actuallyautistic I'm also afraid that people with physical limb deformities will be accused of being ai generated images/fake people. I don't even know how to approach that because it's such a new and unusual problem that just adds to a vast history of ablism (especially in tech)
Show threadRose Ⓐ 🏳️‍⚧️ (it/its)Jul 24, 2023

@mucephie

I think it will lead to pushing disabled people out of public spaces, which has a long precedent

I think we approach it by cutting off/attacking anyone attacking AI art and such. Like saying its "not real art" or trying to undermine people using it

Show threadJParsons
@RosethornRangerTTV As such, I tend to avoid the ai art conversation. But I definitely don't like it when people attack each other over the situation 😕, so maybe just cutting people who show harmful opinions towards people with disabilities out of our communities is the bamdaid solution for now
Jul 24, 2023 at 7:22pmWeb
Show threadRose Ⓐ 🏳️‍⚧️ (it/its)Jul 24, 2023

@mucephie

I much prefer going out of my way to make sure people have access to accessibility tools than to sit and watch

Show threadRose Ⓐ 🏳️‍⚧️ (it/its)Jul 24, 2023
@mucephie I guess the best way to put it is attacking AI art is the ableism here. There are no two sides to this discussion. One side is entirely about ableism
Show threadJParsonsJul 24, 2023
@RosethornRangerTTV can you explain the ableism part? So far the limited exposure to discourse on the web of this topic I've seen is based around the idea of "art theft" when it comes to ai.
Show threadRose Ⓐ 🏳️‍⚧️ (it/its)Jul 24, 2023

@mucephie

well first things first, it allows people to create things they otherwise would not have. AI art requires human input. Often people will think of an idea, generate something, and then iteratively generate on it until they get to that idea.

That is art. Art isn't just when you have a brush and make strokes. AI art also isn't just copy-paste of someone else's art. On top of that, I am an anarchist. Intellectual property is statist right wing bullshit. Why should you be able to limit the art other people make? Why the hell should you be able to tell people they can't use a specific type of brush stroke? Fanart is often better than the art of actual shows.

They just want to limit the amount of people who can do art by using ableism so they can maintain their wages. They are extremely low, of course, but in no way does that excuse participating in the oppression themselves.