Raf Pauly
Dave Bittner“We notice you are using an ad blocker…”
Yes, and I notice you are using a few dozen trackers. Turn off the trackers and I will look at your ads. Until then, we are at an impasse.
Tang_Fish@bittner lovely put!
Grimghost@bittner I’m right there. Whatever it is, I guess I don’t want to read it that bad.
flogallama@Grimghost @bittner
Seriously! I think it just comes off as a challenge: Which do you value more? Your privacy or reading our article? I know which one I choose.
Seriously! I think it just comes off as a challenge: Which do you value more? Your privacy or reading our article? I know which one I choose.
Javvad Malik 
Neil Hopkins (He/Him)
BarryP@interacter @bittner The kind of thing that infests any of (insert place/county name here)live.co.uk websites.
@vandyke4ad @bittner absolutely. Infuriating too....
MarjorieR@vandyke4ad @interacter @bittner though strangely my Devon.Live site doesn't show ads.
Maybe its something to do with my ad blockers?
(UBlock Origin blocked 93% of a current page and 10/22 domains).
Maybe its something to do with my ad blockers?
(UBlock Origin blocked 93% of a current page and 10/22 domains).
@marjolica @vandyke4ad @bittner it isn't as bad on all stories, strangely. That was a particularly bad example!
localzuk
Éibhear 🔭@bittner It's mad.
The attitude is "we're not going to let you deal with us because you won't let us capture information about you that you don't want to share."
<rhetorical>Is there a cost/benefit analysis being done here?
Are they really saying we don't want your money because it's less valuable than the profit we can earn by letting others build and exploit a profile of your life?</rhetorical>
Krutonium://@bittner Also Video Ads with Audio. Or Video ads in general really. Or full screen ads. Or redirect ads.
0xC0DEC0DE07EA@krutonium @bittner all pop-over messages. You want me to subscribe? No. Never. Your site actively sucks, I’m not paying for that.
Luna Dragofelis ΘΔ moved to @@krutonium @bittner Redirect ads are the worst, and from my memory back before having an adblocker on my phone (thanks Firefox and UBlock Origin) they use multiple redirects in a row so the back button doesn't work and just throws you back forward into the ad. A tech illiterate person would not be able to get back to the website they originally wanted to visit!
Ian Douglas Scott@krutonium @bittner If I want to be difficult, even image ads are a massive waste of bandwidth when I'm just trying to read text. Though useless and misleading stock photos are also an issue.
(If I were on a connection with very limited speed, high bandwidth cost, etc. this is a problem even if I'm not being unnecessarily difficult.)
Aaron@ids1024 @krutonium @bittner Right, and often they'll load the ads first and only allow the text to load once it's done, so my crappy internet connection ensures I can't even visit their site.
Luna Lactea@krutonium @bittner ESPECIALLY video ads where the audio is only shitty music & there's no description of what they're trying to sell. If you're going to shove your products down people's throats, at least be accessible so people know what you're trying to shove down their throat.
arclight@bittner That's just it - I have no fundamental problem with ads but I take a hard line on trackers. Trackers are not ads. Maybe at one point the blockers were mainly about ads. The blockers shifted focus to trackers as ads morphed into surveillance and the creepiness and danger that trackers pose was recognized. Ads stopped being about selling goods and services to meet someone's needs and more about harvesting their personal data and behavior. Any possible user benefit however minor evaporated once serving ads was no longer the goal. Reframe the message as "We see you are protecting yourself from surveillance and data mining..." and the guilt of using abusive software shifts from the reader to the site.
Kate Earle
simonbp@bittner Yep. If a simple pihole is enough to kill your ad revenue, your ads are bad.
Сірожа@bittner similar notifications can easily be blocked by the same ad blocker 😉
Ben Pate 🤘🏻And *lazy* trackers at that. You could probably get 95% of the tracking data using un-blockable server-side cookies. But the decisions to throw another JavaScript-based tracker onto the site are being made by non-technical marketing execs who don’t know, don’t care, and aren’t incentivized to make better design choices. It’s a tragedy of laziness. @bittner
Pyperkub@bittner And give me a 1000% guarantee (backed by money) that your ad network won't ever, ever deliver malware or spyware.
@hosford42 @bittner rather like slip and fall insurance. It is their virtual property we are on when reading... they should be responsible for it
joosteto@bittner
I don't use an adblocker, and I *still* get that message.
I don't use an adblocker, and I *still* get that message.
Nihl L'Amas
Legally Zoé@bittner yeah it's not just the tracking for me, it's the 75% of the screen real estate filled with flashy/annoying/moving stuff and videos that auto play and things that follow you when you scroll down.
Addie 🏳️🌈 (They/Them)
Joe@bittner have to use chrome for work. Long story. And recommended ad blockers?
Grant_HEffs privacy badger and then noscript, if you want to be really thorough. Can't guarantee they work on chrome because I don't have it installed...
Does your work not have any IP worth protecting? 😜
Commodore Sixty Bore@bittner First, love this.
Second, how do you know this? So your website has to ask me if I will accept cookies, but it does not have to ask me if it can peek into my browser, plugins and OS?
Second, how do you know this? So your website has to ask me if I will accept cookies, but it does not have to ask me if it can peek into my browser, plugins and OS?
iwein@sikkdays @bittner I don't think it's that bad. One harmless way for the adblockerannoyer to tell if an adblocker is running is simply to check if the ad is blocked.
The browser is yours, and nothing can run in there without your active consent. You can also change anything running in there if you're willing to learn. That's what adblockers are all about: were not defenseless in our own browsers 😎
osmanthus"Sir, you appear to be using an adblocker-"
"And you, sir, appear to be under the monumental misapprehension I wish to see your advertisements"
John Mark 
☑️@bittner "Oh thank you for noticing. Now leave me alone."
Jan Wildeboer 😷
@bittner The correct reply IMHO: "No I will happily accept your ads, but I refuse your trackers. Don't confuse the two" ;)
Edwinek 🌍@bittner
Nah, even then I wouldn't want to see the ads. They triple my data usage and slow down the site. Also, I just hate ads. Period.
Nah, even then I wouldn't want to see the ads. They triple my data usage and slow down the site. Also, I just hate ads. Period.
Djeannot@bittner
I shall look at your ads.
And remember to Never, Never buy those products.
And remember that any tracker may import viruses to your own system.
I shall look at your ads.
And remember to Never, Never buy those products.
And remember that any tracker may import viruses to your own system.
Cédric Levasseur@bittner Brilliant and clear !
Who Let The Dogs Out 🐾Ublock Origin + NoScript and handmade scripting with Tampermonkey
Kill em all.
maybit@bittner or simply "turn off your ads": #advertising is a key component into making us consume more and more, which is not compatible with the planet #ecology
@bittner as someone who lives in GDPR land, I wonder what is listed in such software's documentation as the legitimate interest for detection of the use of ad-blockers, and the legitimate interest for processing said detection, because I'm not about to consent to that data collection and their processing thereof... 🤔 😉
I am Jack's Lost 404No Quarter for ads.
Stephen Collins@bittner this. Every gd time. There's no way I turn an ad blocker off.
🌸Lilyana Marie🌸@bittner Them: "We notice you are using an ad blocker"
Me: "Why thank you for noticing! I'm proud of my ad blocker!"
Nicholas Weaver@bittner
"We notice you are using an ad blocker..."
No you numnuts, I'm running Firefox, which rightly treats your few dozen trackers as malicious. I still see you adds, they just can't profile me...
Šime Vidas@bittner It’s even funnier when you’re *not* using an ad blocker, but it’s your browser that’s blocking the trackers to protect your privacy.
Justin@bittner use Firefox? Inbuilt tracking protection and you don't need an adblocker. Sorted.
Evan@bittner believe it or not, straight to pihole
Forcen@bittner using ublock origin? If you are then you should report the website here: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Quick-guide:-popup-user-interface#report-an-issue-with-current-website
Or here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ublockorigin/
Then they will add a filter blocking that message.
Claudius (legacy account)@bittner
I use EFF's privacy badger, because I don't want to financially hurt anyone (it blocks tracking, not ads). And a while back Privacy Badger started getting flagged as ad blocker on many sites. Those sites can now go straight to hell for all I care.
I use EFF's privacy badger, because I don't want to financially hurt anyone (it blocks tracking, not ads). And a while back Privacy Badger started getting flagged as ad blocker on many sites. Those sites can now go straight to hell for all I care.
@claudius @bittner I could get behind that, if they didn't make ads huge and flashy and full of motion so I can't even read the content. Half the time, even if I close the ad to read the article, it just pops back up 3 seconds later, so I'm playing whack-a-mole the entire time. A few minutes of that and I'm too fatigued and annoyed to bother anymore...which means leaving the site, not allowing the ad to stay in my face.
Alexandro Lacadena 📷@bittner I would say more: Yes, I have an ad blocker because you have 1000 ads per 500 words
Big Pawed Bear@FreakyFwoof @bittner firefox told me how many trackers it had blocked in 30 days once, for fuck's sake! many trackers.