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TheJenThe planet itself will be fine. The planet is not dying. It will always find stasis.
The issue, however, is whether or not we make OURSELVES extinct.
Oh, and people who lack reading comprehension yet proceeed to vomit their dumb "hot takes" on this post will be summarily blocked.
toxtethogrady@JenWojcik I had one dunce (who went to MIT, no less!) who argued that the Earth is not at risk due to global warming, because the planet is made of rock and water and other things. Technically correct, but also quite irrelevant to whether the planet will continue to support life, human or otherwise...
QBAS81- learn #degrowthThe planet will be fine, the biosphere will not, I am afraid.
Sammi@qbas81 @JenWojcik Exactly, "the planet" is almost exclusively a load of rock (amazing in and of itself) that doesn't give a damn for the thin veneer of life clinging to its surface. What is at stake is every living thing not just us. We have the capability of destroying the biosphere and given the way we are going we will be stupid enough to do it. The "stasis" for a planet is a lifeless lump of rock, not a humanless ecosystem.
Exactly. We need to reframe what's actually at stake here.
@JenWojcik @qbas81 True, but it is not just us that is in danger it's all life and I prefer not to take the human centered view. The issue is not just about whether we make us extinct.
All life. Naturally. :)
420@JenWojcik @lisamelton That’s okay, maybe it’s ment to be, just like the Dinos, only in this case all humans and other bigger mammals get extinct. Luckily AI evolves and become the new intelligence species on earth, exploring space and beyond.
Cooki Lumsden@JenWojcik Mother Gaia will endure. The eight billion parasitic monkeys? Maybe not so much.
@JenWojcik this is silly. You don't know that and you can't know that. The idea that a runaway greenhouse effect makes Earth inhospitable to all forms of life - that we hit a tipping point that turns us into Venus - certainly doesn't seem likely, based on what we know. But it also certainly doesn't seem impossible, based on what we know.
Vicente Perez@JenWojcik this, this and 100 times this.
The issue needs to be urgently reframed. It is not saving “the planet”, it is saving our civilization.
Deep State Dude@JenWojcik it may be running a fever to get rid of the parasites that we’ve become.
Bridget@JenWojcik unfortunately we'll probably just have a really bad time and go from 8 billion to less than a million and have to rebuild from scratch again
@BridgetClinch Probably. Or maybe it will kill us all. Which is fine.
@JenWojcik doubtful, we don't need a huge critical mass to keep on going, but society as we know it is toast
@BridgetClinch That's true.
Allan Chow@JenWojcik Ian Malcolm said this very thing in Jurassic Park (the book)
@grumpasaurus HA! I actually haven't read those.
@JenWojcik it's a good read!
brotoae@JenWojcik so the problem is whether our entire species possible to survive, and adapt on new climate change?
dennisaurus
George Carlin - Saving the Planet
Amitchell77@JenWojcik Give it time. I think some humans have already overstayed their usefulness and are considered obsolete (see GOP). Cheers!
life mask (jeff)@JenWojcik the latter is a certainty. 😳😢
Cat West@JenWojcik Slowly, as I read and comment in your threads, I see you have already stated what I later posted. GMTA
ITZJEMZYBABY@JenWojcik really made me think 🤔
yossarianuk@JenWojcik We'll be taking many other species with us though
Ex. Joiner 1981My thoughts precisely.
Claire@JenWojcik
Absolutely right. The planet needs not be saved. It might even be better off without us, humans…
Absolutely right. The planet needs not be saved. It might even be better off without us, humans…
The OwlChemistOne great big festering neon distraction
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied
Learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim
'Cause Mom's gonna fix it all soon
Mom's comin' 'round to put it back the way it ought to be
Adil Arif@JenWojcik I would not descredit all the innocent plants and wildlife that will go extinct with us through no fault of their own. Our actions don't affect just humans, it effects all life on the planet.
KenBallweg@JenWojcik @lisamelton a natural consequence of treating dystopian fiction as a road map rather than a cautionary tale.
anarchademic“This is what you must remember: the ending of one story is just the beginning of another. This has happened before, after all. People die. Old orders pass. New societies are born. When we say 'the world has ended,' it’s usually a lie, because the /planet/ is just fine.”
~ /The Fifth Season/, N.K. Jemisin.
@JenWojcik Just dropping a line hoping for a reply. No-one is reaching what was set in the way of climate change. How can total fossil free by 2030 breached as nothing is being don about kerbing the flow to lessen the temperature.? !!!
HeskieAbsolutely agree, our time on the planet is vanishingly small, compared to the age of the Earth, although my personal preference instead of "stasis" would be "balance."
#GeorgeHarrison had it right, "all things must pass," I just wonder how many, if any, other species are instruments of their own passing?
Che Tibby@JenWojcik i really hate reply guys, but here i go anyway.
the actual worst case scenario is that we release so much carbon that earth ends up like venus - i.e. dead. but, we'll probably collapse civilisation and the carbon extraction machine before that happens...
PirateJoie@JenWojcik and all the other creatures.