I too often read "The planet is dying! ๐ฑ"
It is not. The planet is adapting to what we're doing. There will always be a rich ecosystem on our planet.
But that ecosystem will adapt to the point where we no longer have a place in it.
No, the planet is not dying. We are.
@grob @KleineMaulwurf Not quite. First of all, Arrhenius was off by a factor of two in his estimate of climate sensitivity. Secondly, he corrected the numbers (too far) later. Thirdly, he was convinced that this warming would take hundreds of years and would actually be beneficial (reasonable from his perspective at the beginning of the 20th century).
However: it was later discovered that the oceans take up most of the emitted CO2. It took until the 1960s to see that this is not enough.
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@dgfeist "off by a factor of two" โ so by experimental physics standards, he was pretty much spot on?
Consider that he got this precision by measuring moonlight.
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@eesger @KleineMaulwurf Thank you for your service of providing the fact check.
This reality has broken my ability to discern satire, outright lies, and actual facts from each other based on context alone.
@ehproque todays media usually doesnโt report at all about something that may become a risk in a 100 years ๐
How often did you read about antibiotics becoming ineffective, because we fed them to lifestock, causing the bacteria to develop resistances?
@KleineMaulwurf
Do you happen to have the complete article?
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Thanks a lot for the swift response. ๐
Found it on p. 339f., but need a PC to look at it (tomorrow.)
@KleineMaulwurf I was sceptical, but yeah, it's real.
National Library of New Zealand: https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ROTWKG19120814.2.56.5
@KleineMaulwurf Oh no, not that one again. The source for that note is an article in the March 1912 issue of Popular Mechanics, the final paragraph of which gives a rather different picture. Yes, the effect was recognised, but the author thought it was a fantastic thing. Also, racism.
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@KleineMaulwurf "An atmosphere of that gas would give to our earth a high temperature; and if as some suppose, at one period of its history the air had mixed with it a larger proportion than at present, an increased temperatureโฆmust have necessarily resulted."
Eunice Newton Foote, 1856
@KleineMaulwurf
Coal industry journal in 1966:
"...the temperature of the earth's atmosphere will increase and that vast changes in the climates of the earth will result. Such changes in temperature will cause melting of the polar icecaps, which, in turn, would result in the inundation of many coastal cities, including New York and London."
Mining Congress Journal 1966-04: Vol 52 Issue 8, August 1966, Page 55.
Two centuries of knowledge and warnings yet here we are, amid an entirely expected #GlobalWarming with its #ClimateCrisis and #EcosystemCollapse
https://albert.rierol.net/tell/20210407_two_centuries_of_global_warming_warnings.html
We may be the most shortsighted, wishful thinking civilisation yet on planet Earth.
@KleineMaulwurf its like our species has locked in syndrome. We each see the crisis and we just keep chillin.
We could never relate and care for more than about 150 others at a time without things dissolving into insanity like this.
@KleineMaulwurf 46 years since Australian conservative Prime Minister Fraser, when asked by high school student about solar power in 1977, said the future was in coal (cough, cough) #FossilFuels #Solar #MalcolmFraser
Yes, but are you a vegan? Animal farming is the first cause of desertification and generically blaming humanity doesn't help
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Yeah, just ignore the mass extinction of other species we have already accomplished and are still accomplishing. All the starving, burning, suffocating.
It's always only about precious us.
@KleineMaulwurf
George Carlin has en excellent piece on this:
"The planet's not going anywhere - WE ARE!"
@KleineMaulwurf It's arrogant to believe we can't sterilize Earth, with heating being now above prehistoric heights.
We're basically gods as species go, we can either act in the best image of gods or the worst image, and by being quarrelsome and hateful of each other and not working on cleaning up our act and ensuring we don't cook ourselves, we are acting in the worst image. It's arrogant to act like we can't fuck up nature that badly.
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