I too often read "The planet is dying! ๐Ÿ˜ฑ"

It is not. The planet is adapting to what we're doing. There will always be a rich ecosystem on our planet.

But that ecosystem will adapt to the point where we no longer have a place in it.

No, the planet is not dying. We are.

Please understand that this planet is much more powerful than we will ever be. In geohistoric scale, we are a flyspeck. Thinking that we would be able to extinguish the life on this planet is rather arrogant. No, not even with nukes. All we will accomplish is our own extinction.
BY THE WAY ITS BEEN OVER A CENT...
*coughs*
By the way, it has been over a century, folks.
@KleineMaulwurf just insane. It's all in this teaser from 100 yrs ago (give or take some comfirmatory studies) 

@grob @KleineMaulwurf Not quite. First of all, Arrhenius was off by a factor of two in his estimate of climate sensitivity. Secondly, he corrected the numbers (too far) later. Thirdly, he was convinced that this warming would take hundreds of years and would actually be beneficial (reasonable from his perspective at the beginning of the 20th century).

However: it was later discovered that the oceans take up most of the emitted CO2. It took until the 1960s to see that this is not enough.

@dgfeist @grob @KleineMaulwurf Indeed. & it goes back to the "Popular Mechanics" peace of Frank Molena in 1912 https://books.google.de/books?id=Tt4DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA341 with the outlook that "men in generations to come shall enjoy milder breezes and live under sunnier skies"
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@dgfeist "off by a factor of two" โ€” so by experimental physics standards, he was pretty much spot on?

Consider that he got this precision by measuring moonlight.
@grob @KleineMaulwurf

Fact Check: Did a 1912 News Article Predict Coal-Fueled Climate Change?

A clipping of an article from more than a century ago mentioning the issue of coal usage has been spread on social media.

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@eesger @KleineMaulwurf Thank you for your service of providing the fact check.

This reality has broken my ability to discern satire, outright lies, and actual facts from each other based on context alone.

@KleineMaulwurf it *may* be considerable in just a few centuries!
@KleineMaulwurf "the effect may be considerable in a few centuries" and we made it catastrophic in 50 years...
@KleineMaulwurf @eater so we still have at least a couple more until we need to worry
@KleineMaulwurf 4 months after the Titanic sunk.

@KleineMaulwurf

1912: Ah, I'll be dead by then.

2023: Ah, I'll be dea-... shit. I'm dying.

@KleineMaulwurf In case anyone is wondering, it's legit. Here's the Snopes fact check (True) on it: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/1912-article-global-warming/
Did a 1912 Newspaper Article Predict Global Warming?

A newspaper clipping from 1912 that anticipates the global warming potential of burning coal is authentic and consistent with the history of climate science.

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@danamongden @KleineMaulwurf Thank you for the link - I was a bit sceptical of the authenticity at first glance. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ
@KleineMaulwurf "the effect may be considerable in several centuries". I see media was slightly (but not much) more moderate back then

@ehproque todays media usually doesnโ€™t report at all about something that may become a risk in a 100 years ๐Ÿ˜ 

How often did you read about antibiotics becoming ineffective, because we fed them to lifestock, causing the bacteria to develop resistances?
@KleineMaulwurf

@ehproque @KleineMaulwurf Interesting fact: They did not yet think that the economy (and with it, coal consumption) would grow exponentially. They thought it would grow linearly. We're so used to exponential growth that we often forget how specific the assumption of a growth of, say 3% each year or so is.
If the economy had grown linearly (and emissions proportionally), it would only have become an issue a few hundred years later. #Climate #climatechange #CO2 #Emissions

@KleineMaulwurf

Do you happen to have the complete article?

@HistoPol No, but I do in fact have the original source on which the article was based: https://books.google.com/books?id=Tt4DAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false Page 341
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@KleineMaulwurf

Thanks a lot for the swift response. ๐Ÿ˜€
Found it on p. 339f., but need a PC to look at it (tomorrow.)

@HistoPol Glad to be of service! ๐Ÿ˜Š
Yes, the article starts at p. 339, but the subtext of the picture on p. 341 is quoted verbatim by the article in question.
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@KleineMaulwurf thatโ€™s public domain now, right??
@KleineMaulwurf the cough is because of the coal dust?
Fact check: A 1912 article about burning coal and climate change is authentic

Social media users are sharing an article from 1912 that warns about the danger of coal contributing to climate change.

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@KleineMaulwurf - but like everything else thatโ€™s bad for us/the planet, they went with the casual โ€˜let the future generations figure it outโ€™โ€ฆ

@KleineMaulwurf Oh no, not that one again. The source for that note is an article in the March 1912 issue of Popular Mechanics, the final paragraph of which gives a rather different picture. Yes, the effect was recognised, but the author thought it was a fantastic thing. Also, racism.

https://books.google.com/books?id=Tt4DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA339

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@KleineMaulwurf "An atmosphere of that gas would give to our earth a high temperature; and if as some suppose, at one period of its history the air had mixed with it a larger proportion than at present, an increased temperatureโ€ฆmust have necessarily resulted."

Eunice Newton Foote, 1856

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunice_Newton_Foote

Eunice Newton Foote โ€“ Wikipedia

@KleineMaulwurf @[email protected] Friedrich Nietzsche basically wrote a whole book about Europeans propensity to ecocide in Gaya Scienzia / Gay Science. that book was first published in 1882.

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Coal industry journal in 1966:
"...the temperature of the earth's atmosphere will increase and that vast changes in the climates of the earth will result. Such changes in temperature will cause melting of the polar icecaps, which, in turn, would result in the inundation of many coastal cities, including New York and London."

Mining Congress Journal 1966-04: Vol 52 Issue 8, August 1966, Page 55.

https://archive.org/details/sim_amc-journal_1966-08_52_8

https://www.climatefiles.com/coal/mining-congress-journal-august-1965-air-pollution-and-the-coal-industry

https://www.sciencealert.com/coal-industry-knew-about-climate-change-in-the-60s-damning-revelations-show

#climate

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@KleineMaulwurf

Two centuries of knowledge and warnings yet here we are, amid an entirely expected #GlobalWarming with its #ClimateCrisis and #EcosystemCollapse

https://albert.rierol.net/tell/20210407_two_centuries_of_global_warming_warnings.html

We may be the most shortsighted, wishful thinking civilisation yet on planet Earth.

Tell (it like it is)

@KleineMaulwurf its like our species has locked in syndrome. We each see the crisis and we just keep chillin.

We could never relate and care for more than about 150 others at a time without things dissolving into insanity like this.

@KleineMaulwurf 46 years since Australian conservative Prime Minister Fraser, when asked by high school student about solar power in 1977, said the future was in coal (cough, cough) #FossilFuels #Solar #MalcolmFraser

https://flic.kr/p/rCYBfK

Fraser gives coal top priority, solar research relegated - Canberra Times 19770521 p9

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@KleineMaulwurf
I do not advocate coal mining or burning coal.
One thing interesting to me about burning coal - the soot in the sky blocked sunshine and cooled the earth a little- so when burning dirty coal stopped- more sunshine reached the earth and heated the earth more quickly.
I hate coal mining- it ruined the economies and environments of Ky and WV and other states.
Human activities are affecting climate- but foretelling what will happen is impossible
@KleineMaulwurf looks like the coal industry took this as a challenge and here we are ONE century later with "considerable effect."

@KleineMaulwurf

Yes, but are you a vegan? Animal farming is the first cause of desertification and generically blaming humanity doesn't help

@KleineMaulwurf
We actually did cause the extinction of quite a lot of stuff before our own 

@KleineMaulwurf
Yeah, just ignore the mass extinction of other species we have already accomplished and are still accomplishing. All the starving, burning, suffocating.

It's always only about precious us.

@KleineMaulwurf
We don't need a giant asteroid - we are doing it to ourselves.
@KleineMaulwurf True, but this argument is also used by climate deniers. That it is arrogant to think that we can change the climate of this big planet.

@KleineMaulwurf
George Carlin has en excellent piece on this:

"The planet's not going anywhere - WE ARE!"

https://youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c&feature=share9

George Carlin - Saving the Planet

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@KleineMaulwurf We'd dererve that as a species. I have a problem with the other species, other unique whole ecosystems we'd be taking with us into oblivion.
And with how much more desolate we're leaving the place for our too-numerous human survivors in the short run.
@KleineMaulwurf i must say that i dont like that framing: sure thing life will continue. but right now WE are the cause of the extinction of almost all of the current lifeforms. the following millions of years will be sparse.
imho this is quite not ok! whereas killing ourselves is just fine with me.
this narrative is taking responsibility off our backs. but we ARE the ones fucking this place up! this pov can help dealing with cognitive dissonance on climate-things: life will go on, so what?
@KleineMaulwurf so, yeah โ€ฆ I guess Iโ€™m only โ“ฅ for the animals and for my own health, considering the earth can take care of herself. ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ’š๐Ÿ˜™

@KleineMaulwurf It's arrogant to believe we can't sterilize Earth, with heating being now above prehistoric heights.

We're basically gods as species go, we can either act in the best image of gods or the worst image, and by being quarrelsome and hateful of each other and not working on cleaning up our act and ensuring we don't cook ourselves, we are acting in the worst image. It's arrogant to act like we can't fuck up nature that badly.

How to destroy the Earth @ Things Of Interest

@KleineMaulwurf The Earth will be here looong after humanity is toast!