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James GleickI see people here asking us to follow them over to #Threads. I don’t understand that. I’m asking people at Threads to follow me over here, where we’re free from ads and algorithms.
Tim Chambers@JamesGleick Exactly right strategy.
Brian@JamesGleick @tchambers This is the way.
David Scott Moyer@JamesGleick I'm not asking people at Threads to do anything, because I'm not over there and never will be.
Wilhelm@JamesGleick I am similarly confused... isn't it just Mastodon, but worse? Didn't we all agree that Facebook's values are antithetical to the fediverse?
Asbjørn Ulsberg@Wbud @JamesGleick It’s worse, because Threads doesn’t even support ActivityPub yet. So it’s just another privacy exploitative, surveillance capitalism, closed source, proprietary silo.
THIS ACCOUNT HAS MOVED@JamesGleick not doing threads
Marje, a humane bean@JamesGleick This!! I don’t want algorithms and ads. I love it here to not be a product or profit center for billionaires.
Patrick Johanneson 🚀 🇨🇦@JamesGleick Free, too, from whatever this is.
Kreig Durham (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image The Zuck suck is in full swing. In the few short hours since I started using #Threads, #DuckDuckGo has already blocked over 200 data tracking attempts. These include things like "headphone status" and "screen density." EDIT for clarity: The 200+ attempts *may* have been overcounted as DDG hadn't tooled their VPN for Threads yet. #DataPrivacy #Meta #ThreadsApp EDIT: To anyone who is using this post to bash anyone and everyone who is using Threads, please read this https://writing.exchange/@kreig/110673494921536371
Sara Dreampicker💡@JamesGleick exactement.
Karin Nelson 
@JamesGleick yeah, I’ve been advertising for Mastodon like crazy. It’s already looking like a dumpster fire, TBH.
Christine T@JamesGleick this will be the actual and only reason I might download that app: to leave my friends and family a reminder of where I hang out
John D'oh@JamesGleick
...and personal data mining.
...and personal data mining.
Chirag Sharma@CStJames how do you know if someone has mined your data if they don't explicitly declare it or someone blows whistle on it??
@CStJames I am asking about if they never declared but used it without letting anyone know ?? would it make a difference to you if this page was skipped in contrast to being shown to the users right now
Arena Cops 🇺🇦✌
Ashley Quint@JamesGleick It was the asking you to follow people, and for them not to appear in your timeline which got me. It was just a load of random shit.
Roy Brander🍁I just vented for a few hundred words after seeing The Guardian this morning.
You'd think that paper just hated all large corporations, and Meta with a special passion.
But they've NEVER done a piece on Mastodon - just covering it as an experience, what's it like, did you have fun, was it easy to sign up.
Then the giant scandalous, whistleblown, genocide-enabler puts out a Twitter clone, and The Guardian reviews it in MINUTES. Literally.
http://brander.ca/stackback#threads
Pissed.
Max Leibman has moved!@JamesGleick My bio on threads says I’m there to squat my username, and my profile link is the URL of my Mastodon profile. I feel that’s about as far as I need to go with checking it out.
Highlander@JamesGleick maybe the Twitter hate and Mastodon apparent complexity are pushing people to despair … ops… to Theads?
leandrofelgueiras@JamesGleick some people just can't get it. It's been very soothing for me to navigate on a social network without algorithms, even though I have no friends or followers here rs
simsa02@JamesGleick
For many it's far better to communicate inside one social medium, even a "closed" one, than to deal with the hassle of what can and can not be said on one instance in the #Fediverse or another, blockwars being one result of such "decentralisation".
To many #Threads may be the right thing to escape the negative effects of #federation.
That you don't understand why some ask to follow them over to Threads may be due to a lack of technical understanding of federation.
tinydoctor@simsa02 @JamesGleick It may be due to a plentiful lack of understanding on my part, but I find Mastadon pretty easy to use, for the purposes for which I use it. I dwell in an ignorance of the details of the fediverse so vast that it protects me from getting mad about the things that are no doubt upsetting about it. It's what I know about Zuckerberg, Meta, and using Instagram and Facebook that will keep me from downloading the Threads app. Won't get zucked again.
simsa03You're on a rather large instance which "sees" a lot of other instances. Furthermore, it's a Mastodon powered instance, so it runs smoothly with a lot of other mastodon instances provided there is no blockwar due to political differences. But once you get out of the Mastodon silo and try interoperability with other "projects", the hassle, the breakdown, the repudiation of connections, etc., start. There is a reason I call Eugen Rochko the Dear Leader of Mastodon: He created a silo every other project in the Fediverse has to comply to. And it's no coincidence that there are negotiations running between Mastodon developers and Meta for shared access. Rochko tries to become a Musk and Zuckerberg, only with his own version of social media silo. He's not better than they are, only cheaper and with less money. And privacy is chimera in the Fediverse which is why Zuckerberg will get a lot of new user data especially from people (like me) who don't use his platforms -- simply by sharing connections with the Mastodon run part of the Fediverse.
@simsa03 Oh, the disillusionment. Privacy is a chimera anywhere you go, digitally or in real life. Ride the chimera. You can pretend but you can’t escape.
Then there is no reason or excuse for you to not download and use Threads. Which looks to me slightly self-defeating. Some chimera we should take dead seriously, others we should laugh at. And it it takes a blessed sage to know which of these is which.
@simsa03 Honestly the only possible reason I can think of for using Threads is if you moved there and signing up was the only way I could stay in contact and continue our conversation. And downloading the app is a high hurdle.
@simsa03 I hate downloading apps. I only download them at last resort. And usually regret it, as I regret downloading the Instagram app.
Don't worry. As I don't use FB and Insta, I keep being stuck in the other silos, dreaming their benficial charcater by far exceeds the Zucker's.
I guess one's choice which SM to use comes down to who of their owners or CEOs makes one the least to vomit and cry.
I guess one's choice which SM to use comes down to who of their owners or CEOs makes one the least to vomit and cry.
ItsAVanes@JamesGleick This is what I did and honestly the only good thing about Threads was seeing something about Mastodon and coming here
MindCreatesMeaning@JamesGleick - Agreed. I can't wrap my head around discovering the wonder of the open fediverse and then wanting to make it just a little bit worse with corporatism.
Shiv
John Weeks 
@JamesGleick Gonna be a bit of a fight for a while.