When I started on Mastodon, people would advise me to “only Boost posts.” Since there’s no algorithm that places a value on Favorites, “only Boosts have value.”

I disagree completely.

When people Favorite my posts, they unwittingly introduce themselves to me. I have discovered some very interesting people that I may not have if they didn’t Favorite my posts.

Keep ‘em coming. It’s nice to meet you.

#feditips #mastodon #favorite

@gadgetboy Also, if a friend toots something inconsequential from their life, I don't need to boost it to a lot of people who are following me for a lot of different reasons, but my friend still feels seen.
@gadgetboy it's a very weird engagement-farming mindset to think letting someone know you appreciated what they had to say has zero value

@left_adjoint yep. It really shows how Twtter and FB have warped reality.

And @gadgetboy I totally agree, thanks for saying this!

@jdp23 @left_adjoint @gadgetboy Likes have a great psychological effect on people. I learned on Twitter to like every reply someone directed at me unless I actually hated it. It encourages people interact with you in the future. It works even better on Mastodon.
@left_adjoint @gadgetboy I'm of opinion that there's value to boosting a post without spamming followers. The mechanism should be the "Star/Like" button. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@gadgetboy the irony that this is boosted more than liked...
@gadgetboy Same. Just followed you, because how could I not?
@gadgetboy I agree, I discover people by posting in 3 ways from more often to less often:
1. When the favourite my public toots. --> I'm curious, go to their profile, if I find their toots useful to me, then I follow.
2. From directly seeing other people's instances via Calckey's Antennas (that's you Fosstodon).
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99. From other people's boosts.

@gadgetboy @aronow Oh! Is that the reason I’m often the first to fave a post that otherwise already has a ton of boosts?

I’ve decided I won’t be a big booster on this app, for now, so I always just gave for my own sake.

@gadgetboy

That and also the little flow of gratitude: "hey, I liked this post, please post more of this!"

@gadgetboy And just getting the *BLOOP* noise and knowing someone saw you and wanted you to know is a nice feedback :D
@gadgetboy I suspect this advice is dying out? Because I know I've seen about a dozen posts like yours and not once anyone advising not to fav things.
@gadgetboy The closest I've seen was somebody *asking* "wait, if there's no algorithm what's the point of favs", but the replies to them were "it gives the post's author a happy, that's the point" 😸
@gadgetboy I favorite because I want the author to see that I like the post. I share additionally if I want my bubble to see it.
Yes, I mostly look at the profile of the people who favorite my posts and sometimes I follow right away.
@ballertaler I did that at first in the first months I was on Mastodon. But that made that I got to many posts on my timeline to really follow the people that matter most.
After a few cleaning ups of my timeline I still like the likes, but I only get interested by comments.
@gadgetboy

@gadgetboy it's interesting to see this take on it. I usually deny these if the person has sent a follow and they've only fave'd me and don't have an intro.

I like being more open your way. I would like a middle where a friend request auto sent your intro (jabber clents had something like this)

@gadgetboy I have a couple friends on my local instance where we just all favorite each other’s posts all the time and it is lovely. Favorites are little tiny notes saying “I see you and it makes me happy”
@gadgetboy Totally agree with this. Most people I follow here started out as a favourite on one of my posts. Nice to meet you, too!

@gadgetboy
That's one of these things where it *is* good to make sure people know that favoriting something doesn't have an inherent boosting effect behind it... but that shouldn't be the only reason to favorite it.

Sometimes you do just want to say you like something without necessarily feeling like you need to rebroadcast it to everyone else.

(Or, indeed, I'll favorite posts with pictures I like, but not actually boost them if they don't have alt text...)

@gadgetboy
@jrconlin

stars are *at least* as important as boosts

a star's a direct, nonverbal interpersonal acknowledgment someone read or saw your thing and thought it smart or funny or cool and just wanted you to know

that's awesome ⭐

@fsnk @gadgetboy

Plus, who doesn't like saying "Well done, fellow internet person! Gold star for you!"

@gadgetboy not unwittingly.
The opposite!
It says something like, Hello :) i want you to know i read it and you aren't talking into empty void..
There's people out there paying attention

@gadgetboy Same here.

> Hey, someone liked this, let's see who. Owww. Seems interesting. Here, have a follow.

In fact I am sure you can derive some kind of fave to follow ratio thingy. No idea about what that might represent, but I'm sure it would be a thing.

@gadgetboy @jdp23 It's interesting because "only boosts have value" assumes that everyone who posts, and every post, has the goal of getting boosted. Sometimes people are posting something they clearly wouldn't want boosted, and maybe they seem like they just want to be heard, so I fave so they know I heard them and care.

It's weird when I post something of personal interest to me and maybe my followers, without global appeal, like how I'm feeling or whatever, and someone boosts it. I'm like.... why do you think your followers would give a crap about that?

@gadgetboy @jdp23 The other point I meant to make (but I got interrupted over here and forgot) is that I thought on Mastodon we were supposed to leave behind valuing metrics over quality interactions. Thinking that only boosts are of value is so very metrics-minded. Sure, I want some of my toots to be popular because I think they're funny or insightful, but that isn't true of every toot. If we don't care about metrics, then we'll see the value in faves.
@gadgetboy agreed. Also I usually don't like following people who just boost (typically things I have seen already anyway). (Lisa Melton excepted, she has great boosts).
@gadgetboy can confirm. I love the interactions here due to people favoriting. Not everything needs a boost, just a simple hey is okay.
@gadgetboy But are you just saying that to get lots of favorites in this post? ;)
@joshisanonymous 🤣 Now that I re-read my own post, I guess someone could interpret it that way. But, no.
@gadgetboy I boost good toots I think other people should see. When I favorite something, it's usually the result of a more personal interaction, and therefore only intended for the author.
@gadgetboy one thing I've noticed is that only favorites from people in my instance show up. Is that the case for anyone else?
@miyelsh Not for me, but I’m the only person on my instance.

@gadgetboy The way I understand it is that boosts enable more people to see the post, because they're following me, or are on the same server instance.

Favourites are strictly person to person. There is value in the sense of saying hi or offering a pat on the back. Sometimes I do both.

@gadgetboy
I remember a post last year comparing like+boost to "Yes, and..." from improv.

Yes, I like the post, and I'm going to share it.

I tend to share fewer replies to a thread on the assumption that most people who view the OP will probably read at least some of the replies, but I still like quite a few.

@gadgetboy as someone who's been here for years the whole "favorites have no value" thing was just... so bizarre for me. free yourself from the need to think of posts as "content" that needs to be prioritized
@hoppet @gadgetboy
agreed, it's nice to go back and look at stuff i've favorited, and it's nice to get a little ping when someone else favorited a thing i did. it doesn't generate revenue/clicks but it's fun. only been on here for months but i'm not missing that frantic "must do this to get to the top" mentality
@beaiouns @gadgetboy i'm just here to post about what i had for lunch and make bad puns
@gadgetboy @keenan OMG I can’t agree more. I see this all the time too and I’ve never understood it. As if the reason we’ve all favorited things in the past was to boost them in the algorithm 🙃
@gadgetboy I totally agree about boosts and likes, and I'll go farther. Boost less!!!! If ten posts in a row in my timeline are boosts from the same person and they aren't the ten most interesting goddamn posts I've ever seen, I turn off boosts from that person forever. I consider it my spam filter.
@gadgetboy Interesting. I use the star mainly to "bookmark" a post so I can go back and reference it later, but also to mark it as interesting (not necessarily agree/disagree with).
@kpfaulkner @gadgetboy There is also a bookmark button! It lets you bookmark things without necessarily pinging the poster.
@mwt @gadgetboy haha I can't believe I hadn't noticed that. :) cheers
@gadgetboy I favorite things that I like. I boost things if I think it's worth sharing to my followers. Those were the original purposes of those buttons on Twitter back when I joined in 2008.

@gadgetboy I also find this advice interesting because it implies that the only thing of value on a social media platform is increasing your reach or the reach of someone else.

What's wrong with saying "hey, I liked that thing you posted"?

Algorithmic thinking is poison injected into the heart of joy.

@gadgetboy I'm absolutely livid that I'm the first like on this. What the actual eff, folks?! Do y'all read?! *sigh*

*tromps off back to old people corner*

@gadgetboy To me it's just out of tendency.
@gadgetboy it’s odd that the notion is almost “the algorithm rules all.” As you say, favorites have a place. They provide feedback to the writer.
@gadgetboy I use Favorite to say 'Thank you for taking time to post or share something that interested me'.
@gadgetboy I don’t want to fill people’s feeds with stuff that has a niche following.
@gadgetboy I feel like "it makes the person who made the post happy" is already an excellent reason to favorite posts in addition to boosting
@gadgetboy I very much agree with this. It's a nonverbal way to indicate that someone likes a particular post which is still nice on it's own, I think
@gadgetboy I don’t toot stuff that a lot of people boost but I do get people Favouriting my roots and that’s how I discover and follow new people. I really value a favourite on my posts.