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Sarah_jwh Jul 5, 2023

I'm really glad the first wave #TwitterMigration already happened so those folks could learn about the Mastodon HOA and warn the people in the latest migration to just ignore them.

The first time there was all this pearl clutching & Twitter migrants were like oh my heavens yes let's try to fit in and then a lot of them gave up after being tsk-tsked by dork ass losers. Those that remained here are immune to that shit now and can vaccinate everyone else with our antibodies.

Welcome to Mastodon!

Filthius Jul 5, 2023

@rodhilton LOL! Well said!

@rodhilton Yes! Some people were really welcoming and I checked their profiles and saw most of them were from around last November.

Jens Ljungkvist Jul 5, 2023

Why did I read this comment with the voice of Matteo Lane in my head?

Cha Knowlton Jul 5, 2023

@rodhilton What kind of pearl clutching?

Natasha Bates Jul 5, 2023

@Cha_Knewlton @rodhilton
I recall hysterical reactions because newbies tooted political stuff without a content warning & that was considered to be really, really bad. I use CWs for anything violent or graphic, & I learned that images of staring eyes upset some neurodivergent people so I check the sensitive image box & CW that. But I'm not going to CW any mention of current events that might have something to do with war or politics. Just mute me & stay in your bubble if it upsets you. 😏

E. Hatt-Swank Jul 5, 2023

@natasha514b @Cha_Knewlton @rodhilton

The CW kerfluffle from back then blew my mind. I literally saw people arguing that everyone should put a CW on posts that might be seen by someone who's not interested. Which, of course, in practice would mean that *every* post should be behind a CW! And all these folks complaining, "I just really don't care about US politics, so you should hide that from my delicate eyes"... If you don't care, don't read it. I skip over all kinds of topics every day.

Natasha Bates Jul 5, 2023

@ehattswank @Cha_Knewlton @rodhilton
Yes, I recall that CWs were presented as headlines so that everyone would know what one's toot was about. If some people want to do it that way it's fine with me, but demanding such compliance from strangers one will never meet was over the top. I unfollowed and muted a few people at that time. I got so sick of tone policing and etiquette lessons. I found insensitivity and actual racism toward Black tooters. Muted some more accounts, maybe blocked as well.

Ashley Odell Jul 5, 2023

@natasha514b @Cha_Knewlton @rodhilton My absolute favorite was the Spicy Discourse around CWs for all mentions of disability. Sooo...I have to give people warnings about my *existence*? Glad us new arrivals killed that idea real fast.

Natasha Bates Jul 5, 2023

@ashleyodell @Cha_Knewlton @rodhilton
I have invisible disabilities related to trauma & Covid. I had wandered away from Mastodon for a couple of months. Tooted a few times a week, but was finding it to be rather mastodull. I love that there's a new influx of refugees from the shite site. Some of the November arrivées like myself drifted away after a few weeks. I still tweet over there, 🐤 but focus on the fight against MAGA fascists and support for Ukraine. 🌻 I'm spending more time here now. 🐘

Kyle Thayer Jul 5, 2023

@Cha_Knewlton @rodhilton Some examples pearl clutching / HOA that I saw were things like: a lot of Black users being told that they had to put content warnings in front of anything about racism (basically, white people saying it was inappropriate for Black people to talk about their every day experiences). Also many Black users also asked for things like better content moderation (they got extra targeted for harassment) and were told to go make their own server (basically racial segregation).

Cha Knowlton Jul 5, 2023

@kylethayer Thanks Kyle, good to know a little about the challenges in this new territory (new to me & some other folks)

Simon Frankau Jul 5, 2023

@Cha_Knewlton @rodhilton From what I remember them being unhappy about: incorrect use of CWs, incorrect use of hashtags, not finding the UX perfect, believing in QRTs and/or effective search & daring to use a large instance, among other sins.

Amy 🇹🇭Jul 5, 2023

@rodhilton What's a HOA

Dan Yeaw Jul 5, 2023

@AmyIsCoolz @rodhilton HOA is a homeowners association, a US and Canada centric thing to keep a common standard for maintenance and upkeep of homes. They are often heavy handed enforcing rules. In college we had a violation notification because my roommate was drying a white bedsheet on our patio. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeowner_association

Homeowner association - Wikipedia

David Brent 📚Jul 5, 2023

@danyeaw @AmyIsCoolz @rodhilton My HOA dinged us because my wife's cousin, who was staying with us, parked his work truck in the driveway. I can't remember if the violation was that it had a ladder on top or that it had a flat tire at the time. Either way: ridiculous.

Scott Weintraub Jul 6, 2023

@danyeaw @AmyIsCoolz @rodhilton my apologies for being pedantic and focussing on the wrong point, but in my experience, HOA members are in a weird hell. The rules are often created by the original developers to set a standard that ostensibly helps new home prices. They are nearly impossible to amend in practice. Ignoring mild rule breaking risks legal challenges against enforcing major rule violations. Its not fun.

njwatt Jul 5, 2023

@AmyIsCoolz @rodhilton Home Owners’ Association - like a mandatory private club for living in some housing developments in the USA. Some are really intense - I know somebody whose HOA is threatening to fine her because she put a fan on her front porch.

Marco L. Gato Jul 5, 2023

@AmyIsCoolz @rodhilton

Home Owners Association.

In America neighborhoods or buildings sometimes form legal entities that manage shared assets (gyms, parks, garages, gardens, boat ramps, whatever) and inevitably they get filled with the kind of people that like making rules for what other people should do.

Xavier Jul 5, 2023

@AmyIsCoolz @rodhilton I don’t know either but I’m going with Horsemen of the Apocalypse!

John Lusk Jul 5, 2023

@xavez @AmyIsCoolz @rodhilton

Homeowner's Association.

Procrastinasaurus Rex Jul 5, 2023

@AmyIsCoolz my search engine says HomeOwners Association. I think they are the ones Americans complain about for not being able to paint their own house the color they want or let the grass grow in their own garden @rodhilton

0xDECAFBAD Jul 5, 2023

@AmyIsCoolz @rodhilton Home Owners Association
Typical for Mastodon, which is basically devoid of anybody <30 years old, it’s a boomer reference to people who own property in a condo building or subdivision that enforces usually arbitrary rules on things like how soon you can put out your garbage for collection and sends you a nasty letter (and/or fines you) for breaking the rules.

Buck Jul 5, 2023

@rodhilton I'm dipping my toe in the water for a second time after deleting my account from the first wave.
That was my impression; preachy, boring, bullshit.
I'm assured it's less so now.

Tearcell Games Jul 5, 2023

@TheGoodBuck @rodhilton I definitely feel it's easier to curate interesting things this time around, at least that's what I'm finding.

But you definitely still need to do the curation.

Buck Jul 5, 2023

@Tearcell @rodhilton I've been back an hour and nobody's told me my toot about training shoes is culturally insensitive to the plight of oppressed guinea pigs ("Do you know who else was culturally insensitive to the plight of oppressed guinea pigs? That's right! Hitler!") So that's a start.

John Lusk Jul 5, 2023

@TheGoodBuck @rodhilton

Yep, depending on who you follow.

Buck Jul 5, 2023

@tarheel @rodhilton That's good. I've not had to check my privilege all afternoon.

John Lusk Jul 5, 2023

@TheGoodBuck @rodhilton :D

(Get back to work!)

kaybeeque 🍁💪💪🍁Jul 5, 2023

@rodhilton Nov '22 entrant and couldn't agree more.

Although I found it more like playing by the 'rules' of multiple intersecting HOAs as 'what is acceptable' varies somewhat server to server.

But your account builds a community across those servers with their variations in 'rules' as you follow/are followed/etc. You have to find a happy place that fits the community you build here.

When you are just starting this is a little hard to grok especially coming from a centralised experience.

Chris (He/Him)Jul 5, 2023

@rodhilton People are crazy. Like the stakes are not that high lol.

Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸Jul 5, 2023

@rodhilton extremely true. 😂

YatPundit Jul 5, 2023

@rodhilton
"Mastodon HOA" - bwahahahaha

Alexander K.Jul 5, 2023

@rodhilton Ha ha ha, this is art.

HOA is the absolute perfect analogy for that nonsense.

DanaBlankenhorn Jul 5, 2023

@rodhilton It's not about the software, or the money, or even about the people. It's about the license
https://www.danablankenhorn.com/2023/07/fall-of-babel.html

Fall of Babel

It doesn’t matter how much money Zuck or Dorsey has. Their reach is limited. The reach of Mastodon, and the open source concept, is not.

Dana Blankenhorn

ThoraSTooth Jul 5, 2023

"Dork ass losers" earns you a block.

💀andrzej💀Jul 5, 2023

@rodhilton (pulls on cigarette)
You thought that was the first wave?

Hughster Jul 5, 2023

@rodhilton id LovE tO BooSt tHIs buT It DoESnT haVe a CW fOr lANguAgE

analiaantenucci Jul 5, 2023

@rodhilton feeling welcome already 😀

Andy H Jul 6, 2023

@rodhilton gonna have to bite, and ask (since Google Fu failed me), what's HOA mean?

@ToshInMacc its an American term meaning Home Owners Association. They are notoriously operated by busybodies with the power to fine you over something as benign as not having the right grass in your front lawn, not having a lawn, not having mowed your lawn, having work vehicles parked infront your home, etc.

Andy H Jul 6, 2023

@carbontwelve Aha thanks, Googling did show that but I assumed it was something else, since what's that got to with Mastodon? I guess we are all unaware of which bits of our local version of English make no sense to people elsewhere. 😀 Thanks for taking the time to reply.

amartya00 Jul 6, 2023

@rodhilton the more the merrier! I already see lots of different kinds of people here than since I joined (first migration wave). Pardon the awful grammar.

🥥 Tucker Carlson's Nuts 🥥Jul 6, 2023

@rodhilton
🥥 I wuz going to follow you for this toot, and then I saw I was ALREADY following you, Rod. 🥥