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Michael W Lucas 
Dear creators:
please, please, PLEASE set up your own web sites and distribute your work from there.
If you post your work only on Twitter and/or Reddit, it's gonna disappear. Soon.
The Misophonic Spree@mwl Disappear?
@MisophonicSpree Twitter is imploding. Reddit is doing... something.
Your own web site is in your control, and will remain online as long as you keep it there.
@mwl Right. Don't /only/ have them on some service. But also I would worry about copyright. Also: what is going on at Reddit? I haven't heard...
@MisophonicSpree Reddit is claiming control of communities, blocking moderators, and changing rules so they can become profitable. And wrecking what makes reddit popular in the process.
@mwl Ugh. I'm sorry to hear that.
Adam ♿@mwl with search engines rapidly becoming useless we'll need to bring directories and webrings back too
Eric A. Meyer
Midnight 🚀@voltagex @mwl Oh, I do believe they're back already, rebranded as 🕶️ "Awesome Lists":
https://leonardomontini.dev/github-awesome-lists/
pamela 
@mwl it'll also disappear when you can't pay to keep a webpage live or run out of data, but then it's gone entirely instead of a login away. Diversify the heck out of stuff and slap a linktree on it.
the only person a creator can trust is themself, and we all know how flaky that dude is. 
ShadSterling
Stephen Michael Kellat@mwl Got my own domain(s) and cheap hosting. Now I need to build my own data center and ASN out here in rural America…
@alpacaherder Solid plan.
Ryan Hamel@mwl @alpacaherder Pretty easy to get IP space and an ASN from RIPE, to use with a VPS from Vultr unless you want to colocate a server. The only things are cost, time, BGP, etc.
Mike Myers@mwl yup, the recent shit show over at Reddit reinforced this view for me. It’s definitely true. I’m in the process of standing my site back up now (OffSec.pro - nothing there yet). These platforms have totally lost the plot recently.
Yonle@mwl You will still ended up losing your works if you did not pay your server monthly.
Slatian.tar.gz@yonle @mwl You don’t, you could be pushing directly to the server that hosts your site (git is awesome). On the flip side you could depend on whatever online IDE your codeforge offers and not have a local copy on the device(s) you use for editing. Fun fact: you can use any machine with git installed you have ssh access to as a private mini-codeforge (git headless mode).
In short a lot of options, but usually one goes with the “good enough” convenient one because 24 hours a day really aren’t that much.
@yonle Back up locally, and remotely.
But yes, being a creator has expenses. It always has.
ottO@mwl @rysiek I've been re-ramping up my RSS usage with @NetNewsWire , so there is all the encouragement you guys need eh?
CodeMacLife@mwl So true. I realised this and set up my own website/blog. 👉 https://CodeMacLife.com #blog #wordpress
Flaw! Bee yourself@mwl Make sure to save your stuff, use whatever mechanisms are available to get a takeout of your data if you can.
You never know for sure when it’ll go, so don’t take any chances with it
Chev@mwl I'm actually considering setting up Azure media services for video streaming, setting up blob storage for edited videos, and building my own web app for viewing and subscribing to my own content. All of this shit lately has really lit a fire under me to own all my content and never invest my time and personal data in unfederated third party corporate apps.
John HowesAlternatively, post your work everywhere 🙂.
farcaller@mwl it's not like setting up your own website and get the following is easy, though. Twitter provided the free distribution to a large crowd of people, along with easy discovery.
BarkerJr@farcaller @mwl you don't really need to stop using Twitter. Just have a backup plan!
It's not. But it's a necessary skill these days, just like tracking expenses for taxes.
@mwl tfw people do taxes by hand.
@farcaller Depends on where you are, and how many expenses you have.
I have to hire an accountant for mine.
@mwl sorry, was a bit of a failed sarcasm my side (I know that e.g. US taxation is vastly more complicated than what you might find in some EU countries).
Still, I don’t think that maintaining your own portfolio website is a reasonable requirement for a general artist. It’s really a very techy skill and almost a job in its own.
@farcaller
Perhaps not. But you'll need local copies and must be prepared to rebuild your online presence at any time, when the service you use goes bad.
Perhaps not. But you'll need local copies and must be prepared to rebuild your online presence at any time, when the service you use goes bad.
@mwl yes, so many times yes on that. Managing backups _is_ a crucial skill for a digital artist.
Driftini (old)Do you mean something like Carrd or GitHub Pages or an independent website on its own domain and all?
The more independent, the better.
I've been on the Internet since 1987, and in all that every single outside service has eventually gone bad.
@mwl While I agree with that, the issue is only a few people would go out of their way to make even a Github Pages personal site, be it because of lack of skill, interest or anything
Sadly migrating to a new social network whenever necessary is just the easiest and most painless solution when all you want to do is get your work seen by others (although it's short term and you're bound to lose some people you're following on every migration)
Sadly migrating to a new social network whenever necessary is just the easiest and most painless solution when all you want to do is get your work seen by others (although it's short term and you're bound to lose some people you're following on every migration)
hairylarry
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Gianluca Fiore@mwl
it's Web 1.0 again (and I am all for it)!
it's Web 1.0 again (and I am all for it)!
Zach Perlman@mwl lately I've been using Google sites to make free easy websites. i'm sure they won't cancel it. 😅🫣😬
HRH ginsterbusch@mwl Thats what I've kept telling them for .. years ... decades .. and then they go crying when what we "dumb hacks" have always said is gonna happen ACTUALLY HAPPENS.
And then they go on to the next "network" or big thing and still dont learn.
People. *sighs*
Bez@mwl I wish I didn't struggle with the coding. 💔
@StuffByBez wordpress is as easy as it gets, sorry.
Clockwork ☃️✒️Been learning HTML basics for the last month or so just for this purpose!
Matthew Green@mwl the problem is we need some way to publicise the site itself
Yep. Use other platforms for that, but don't let them use you or seduce you.
Etua@mwl As always, publish within your control and syndicate everywhere, if this lies within your technical and financial ability. Otherwise, try to use open platforms and retain your files somewhere else.
Pup CrowSO important! Indie creators of every kind need to understand that their content - not the platform it's on - is their biggest asset worth protecting.
I'll add:
1. Learn a bit about copyright & make sure you have a 'default' license for your work
2. Read & understand the EULA of any platform you post your content on - many of them wind up taking over rights for anything you post!
3. BACKUP YOUR DATA! At least two places, and at least one should be a physical drive that lives with you.
Konomi Kitten@mwl it makes me sad thinking about how much internet culture is going to be lost over the next few years from all the centralised platforms.
Yep, same.
nik0 
@mwl Off topic but please put your fixes or notation anywhere else like github or a webpage. Just somewhere else other than reddit (or archive your thread)
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