Who killed Google Reader?

Google killed Reader in 2013, shutting down its RSS reader after years of neglect. Now, the team that built it reflects on what they made and how the web has changed in the decade since.

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@Gargron RIP Reader... will always remember...
@Gargron Google killed Google Reader because they couldn't make money from it.

@Gargron what a read... 😢

And the best part "Almost nothing ever hits Google scale, which is why Google kills almost everything."

@Gargron Interesting read.

Personally, I moved to feedly after the shutdown and never looked back.

Curiously, the rss feeds I was subscribed to, at the time I migrated from reader to feedly are about 98% of the feeds I am subscribed today.

Things changed a bit since then, I'm using a mix of feedly, google news, and reddit to stay up to date on my topics of interest across the internet.
Reddit had the biggest gain as a % of my sources of news.
That makes specially mad about what is going on.

@novettam @Gargron I didn't realize how much I appreciated them at the time, but I miss the social aspects. It was a huge engine for discovery. My feedly feeds have stagnated, and a big part of it is I don't get exposed to as many sources as I was at the time, and when I do, it's not through the RSS feed, so I am less likely of thinking of adding it as a feed.
@Gargron I miss Google image search. No not the thing they put in its place but the other one that actually worked.
@Gargron Peak Google Reader was peak internet. I will not be taking questions at this time.

@Gargron
Commafeed is a very good open source self-hosted replacement for Google Reader.
Has been my #RSS reader for many years now. It used whole width of my screen when other readers did not. And it even got an interface refresh recently.

https://www.commafeed.com/

#Commafeed #SelfHosting #OpenSource

CommaFeed

@Gargron I still miss Google Reader.

I tried Feedly for awhile, but it did something to tick me off that I can't remember.

For now, I use Feedbro (a browser extension). It also has issues, but I can live with it.

If I could find some simple self-hosted solution, I'd be all over it.

testman (@[email protected])

@[email protected] Commafeed is a very good open source self-hosted replacement for Google Reader. Has been my #RSS reader for many years now. It used whole width of my screen when other readers did not. And it even got an interface refresh recently. https://www.commafeed.com/ #Commafeed #SelfHosting #OpenSource

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@joed @Gargron You need to look into @davew and River5 https://github.com/scripting/river5
GitHub - scripting/river5: A river-of-news RSS aggregator in JS running in Node.

A river-of-news RSS aggregator in JS running in Node. - GitHub - scripting/river5: A river-of-news RSS aggregator in JS running in Node.

GitHub

@bdenneen @joed @Gargron

river5 is pretty old.

check out feedland.org

@joed There are multiple RSS reader that you can self host. I personally use a Nextcloud extention called "News". It's not the best one, but I already self-host Nextcloud so it was super easy to add it.

I'm sure if you search online you'll find multiple. If you like the Yunohost project, there seems to be multiple results if you search for "rss" in their app catalog.

@Gargron Still miss it - and while there are plenty of good current alternatives for feed readers, it was the critical mass of social interaction that made it so good...

I'd love to see what all my friends are reading, enjoying and sharing without having to delve into social networks and everything else that entails - but sadly I think it'd be almost impossible to get enough using RSS feed readers again...

@Gargron The article completely misses a big part to the story. Before it was killed, Google Reader elbowed out many of the other RSS readers. It’s basically impossible to compete against Google; the 6 or 7 years Reader was in play was long enough to weaken the other players and push RSS far into the sidelines to the benefit of Google News. This is when I realized that Google was just a big corporate bully like any other publicly owned, profit-driven behemoth.
@bdenneen @Gargron this is when I stopped trusting Google to not be evil
@Gargron Google is a sociopath that murders its own family members. It’s been doing it for years now
@Gargron in my opinion that was the best move for innovation. Without killing #GoogleReader we would still be in Googles ecosystem. Now we have a variety of #RSSreaders to choose from.
@Gargron Good article, altho it made me mad all over again reading it. I use newsblur now, which you pay for, but I like a lot.

@Gargron I was a heavy user of Google Reader.
No I have my own free selfhosted RSS reader server with Tiny-Tiny-RSS (TT-RSS).

https://tt-rss.org/

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Tiny Tiny RSS (tt-rss) is a free, flexible, open-source, web-based news feed (RSS/Atom/other) reader and aggregator.

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@cktodon @Gargron Same here! First, I gave Feedly a try, but then I switched to TT-RSS and never looked back.
@Gargron I *loved* Google Reader.
@Gargron I was upset back when they killed Google Reader, but I found alternatives and for all people say RSS is "dead" I've never lacked for feeds to subscribe to over the years since. And if GR had survived to the present day, can you imagine how far down the enshittification curve it would be by now?
@Gargron Honestly still missing Google Reader to this day. At the time it was the social network that knitted my friend group together while we were at our day jobs, shitposting and sharing the most interesting things we could find.

@Gargron this is the truest quote ever:

“If Google made the iPod,” he says, “they would have called it the Google Hardware MP3 Player For Music, you know?”

@jamie @maegul @Gargron Microsoft Music Media Portable Player Personal Edition 2001

@jamie @Gargron

Yea, for me, the take away from the article was the insight that Reader was simultaneously something that could only have come out of Google and that could never have survived there because Google has such a large scale that big things can just happen but will never meet Google's internal standards of success.

Not being someone who pays attention to Google, but found their product cycle odd, like most, found this both interesting and resonant with modern big-tech generally.

@Gargron Google. And it was the principle of the end
@Gargron shine on you crazy diamond
@Gargron for me google reader‘s death was the beginning of a long search for substitutes. Until I found @Inoreader . That‘s how GReader would look like today.
@Gargron
Google Reader was the best thing the Goog ever developed, and I'll never forgive them for killing it the way they did.
@Gargron
And yet now you're allowing Meta into the Fediverse...

@echanda @Gargron I don't think it's the same kind of danger - I _do_ think that it's a sign of the times where FB is opening up the walled garden (demographics bit them hard), but to some extent every Mastodon instance is like a separate Reader instance.

We _will_ have an Eternal September situation when the floodgates open; and I foresee people self-selecting into Mastodon instances depending on whether they want FB or not - and fracturing the social graph a bit.

@Gargron Depressing read, it was a very good product.
I've been paying to use NewsBlur ever since, and getting my monies worth out of it.
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