Mastodawn

I think the best way to comment on Lemmy is to have an account on one of the Lemmy-frontend instances.

I don't know of a better way to do this right now than to look under "Popular" (not under "Recommended") on https://join-lemmy.org/ . lemmy.blahaj.zone seems like a good default instance for queer shitposters. Alternately, Beehaw itself might be okay to sign up on (tho there's a wait).

Alternately alternately, you CAN post to a Beehaw/Lemmy thread from Mastodon, but it's a little awkward:

Lemmy - A decentralised discussion platform for communities

Lemmy

Like Reddit, the Lemmyverse is based around communities, like https://beehaw.org/c/technology. (Kbin calls these "Magazines".) These are the equivalent of Reddit /r/s. People make OP posts to communities, everybody else posts replies, good stuff floats to the top of communities and threads based on upvotes. Accounts on different Lemmy instances can (of course) post to each other's communities, unless prevented by (of course) defederation. It's all pretty straightforward.

Technology - Beehaw

A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here. Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated. Subcommunities on Beehaw: - Free and Open Source Software [https://beehaw.org/c/foss] - Programming [https://beehaw.org/c/programming] - Operating Systems [https://beehaw.org/c/operating_systems] — This community’s icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/].

Each Lemmy instance has a front page of popular posts from all the locally hosted communities, which I feel gives individual instances a sense of local character I feel like don't usually in practice develop on Mastodon servers. It also means the front pages are great places to go to look for posts.

I find this model– distinct communities with crossposting rights– is a little easier to grasp than Mastodon, which *pretends* to be one big single shared service but (because of defederation) isn't.

https://lemmyverse.net/communities
https://sub.rehab/
https://lemmy.ca/c/wowthislemmyexists
https://kbin.social/m/FindAKbin
https://redditmigration.com/
https://www.quippd.com/writing/2023/06/15/unofficial-subreddit-migration-list-lemmy-kbin-etc.html

Anyway assuming you can figure out how to post on Lemmy at all, there's a bunch of directories of /c/ communities, mostly focused around migration from specific Reddits:

I'm looking forward to seeing where Lemmy/Kbin go.

Lemmy Explorer

Instance and Community Explorer for Lemmy

MrEUser Jun 23, 2023

@mcc Here’s a whole community based around search tips for lemmy instances:
https://lemmy.ninja/c/communitysearchtips

Community Search Tips - Lemmy Ninja Clan

This community is dedicated to helping Lemmy and kbin users find communities and magazines to participate in. Post your questions, requests, and tips in this community. All discussion is good! The more we share about what’s out there, the better the Lemmy experience will be for everyone. Note: Please avoid using the shorthand link (links that begin with !) when linking to communities. That method can result in an error in small instances. Details here [https://lemmy.ninja/post/84573].

Yawning Chasm Jun 23, 2023

@mcc Thanks to the magic of federation you can actually follow Lemmy communities from Mastodon if you want. It's not... super readable, but it's neat that it's there.

@yawningchasm Yeah, it's neat! But replying is dodgier, uhh check out the sequence of images attached here https://mastodon.social/@mcc/110595589185685412

Meg Jun 23, 2023

@mcc Mastodon does have this as well, as the local timeline, but it's not very useful on a really big instance like the one you're on. It's really good for finding people to follow on smaller more focused ones though.

I definitely agree though that this is the better conceptual model, and that Mastodon gets things backwards. Federation should be about connecting people, not about building a specific platform imo.

Kris Nuttycombe Jun 24, 2023

@mcc has an instance with a concentration of PL communities emerged yet?

Terry Cavanagh 🎲Jun 23, 2023

@mcc so, is beehaw's technology community the same as e.g. blahaj.zone's technology community, or are they different?

@terry There is no https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/c/technology . But if there were, it would be a different community from https://beehaw.org/c/technology . A "community" is a specific thing on a specific instance. Actually, they seem to be a variant of an ActivityPub account.

If you paste https://beehaw.org/c/technology in the Mastodon.social search box (or possibly if you click here: @technology ) Mastodon.social will display the community *as* an account, but with a little bitty "Group" tag.

Gmr Leon Jun 23, 2023

@terry not mcc, but they're different communities.

The thinking seems to be that eventually a larger community may become the defacto tech community for the various instances, or that they'll develop a way you can group the different communities together to view in a single feed if you have an account on a Lemmy/Kbin instance.

Bujold Jun 23, 2023

@gmr_leon @terry To add onto that, an answer to a question you probably have: Isn't that a weak point compared to Reddit, having no one "official" Technology community? Well, that part is not unique to the Fediverse: /r/technology and /r/tech both exist. It's the same dynamic, just slightly more so.

Wendy MsGator 🐊Jun 23, 2023

@mcc

I'm on aussie.zone. So far, so good.

H. Montgomery Jun 23, 2023

@mcc it’s wild that you got a kbin.social link from the “copy fediverse url” icon when the post is on bhalaj and you were presumably browsing from beehaw

@halfflat I don't have a Beehaw account. I just went to https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/ . I have NO idea how any of this works. I understand at the protocol level what's happening but the software UI baffles me

Blåhaj Lemmy - Choose Your Interface

H. Montgomery Jun 23, 2023

@mcc oh, i think maybe it’s because the poster is on kbin but posted on blahaj.zone so when you grab the link to the post you get a kbin link even though you’re browsing a lemmy topic on lemmy 😅. A bit confusing. I actually have been enjoying scrolling around on lemmy and kbin both. Different fediverse vibe for sure, but I kind like how all the convos are spaced out. Beehaw’s really nice, i’d recommend getting an account there, though they have more limited federation to counteract trolls/spam

~Jun 23, 2023

@mcc 90% of my interactions with reddit were up/downvoting, which doesn't seem to be possible from Masto? unless favorites get converted to votes lol I could work with that, can't find anyone saying that though

@modulusshift Correct, voting seems to only be possible from a Lemmy or Kbin.

~Jun 23, 2023

@mcc kind of a shame. This whole thing feels like Apple OpenDoc, a bunch of pieces that almost work together but never quite gel? I might go get an account anyway, not sure yet. Feels wasteful.

pieceofthepie

Jun 24, 2023

@mcc @modulusshift I believe, though I might not be correct, that favourite = upvote = like. There is no analogue for downvotes in Mastodon but "dislike" does exist in activitypub and I think that's what is used.

@pieceofthepie @modulusshift Oh snap I think that's true

@mcc I just followed some Beehaw communities on Mastodon, replied to a post, and saw it appear back on Beehaw in the thread. That's extremely cool, a genuine "wow" moment that I haven't had before on the Fediverse. Basically posting on Reddit from my Twitter account.

@VamptVo The Fediverse: It Only Works 50% Of The Time, But That 50% Is Magic!

maegul Jun 24, 2023

@mcc @VamptVo it feels like the time is ripe for an app that fuses lemmy/kbin and mastodon etc into one.

The app manages both accounts for you, gives you options for how to manage and sort your feed or feeds, like an email client with multiple accounts.

Makes cross posting easy.

Maybe even provides a 3rd party service of making it easier to follow other multi-account users: people register + verify multiple accounts, when you follow them, you can easily follow of their all their alts.

Dexter Jun 23, 2023

@VamptVo @mcc Definitely! I had that same moment when I followed my pixelfed account from Mastodon; seeing "IG" in "Twitter" is pretty mind-blowing.

vriska, thief of light

Jun 23, 2023

@mcc i think it might not be working bc lemmy 0.18.0 fixed a ton of major scalability issues and many instances are still on 0.17.4
lemmy.world is the largest instance and it's basically not federating atm

@mcc isn't there some defederation controversy with beehaw? I can't keep track of all of it but it sounded like Beehaw is cut off from a lot of other instances

@VamptVo I haven't heard that. What I heard was a defederation controversy with "shitjustworks"

@VamptVo Perhaps what you heard was Beehaw was defederating *from* other instances? They seemed like resonable defederations honestly

@mcc That might be it, I honestly don't have energy to track which instances have issues with which other ones

H. Montgomery Jun 23, 2023

@VamptVo @mcc beehaw defederated from two enormous instances because those instances had open registration, and more trolling than the admin team could handle was pouring in. Some folks were upset because those instances had some popular communites & lots of normal users, and beehaw itself is popular. They’ve also defederated recently from a bunch of servers that have had an influx of bot accounts. You can find the reasoning in beehaw’s support community if you’re curious.

@halfflat @mcc Thanks for the explanation!

ShadSterling Jun 23, 2023

@mcc I really want to have a “grand unified ActivityPub client”, even though having separate accounts for mastodon, lemmy, pixelfed, peertube, frendica, and maybe a few more, isn’t actually worse than having separate accounts in multiple walled gardens

@ShadSterling kbin seems to be making active effort to make a system that acts as that "grand unified activitypub" but i can't tell if it's working.

✨nick nick nick nick✨Jun 23, 2023

@mcc
....go on.

@nicknicknicknick there is a lot of communism on the lemmyverse

DJDarren Jun 23, 2023

@mcc I'm a mod on Beehaw, and it's a lovely place. Pretty chill, on purpose. There's a bit of a wait to get on because the admins are keen to make sure the people joining are good.

MrEUser Jun 23, 2023

@DJDarren @mcc Nice to meet you. I’m an admin on lemmy.ninja. I love your content so much that I crosspost to your game community all the time.

kokoapadoa Jun 23, 2023

@mcc kbin is a different platform entirely from Lemmy. It's just that they're both reddit-inspired.

@kokoapadoa different platform but it interoperates cleanly in the way Maarodon doesn't quite. So I'd say it's the same Verse

Helldiver_M Jun 23, 2023

@mcc Hello from Kbin! I think this is pretty neat too. I migrated to Kbin after Reddit announced their API changes. I never had a twitter account, so it's blowing my mind right now that I'm able to interface with platforms like Mastadon easily from Kbin.

@Helldiver_M 👋

Michael Stanclift Jun 24, 2023

@Helldiver_M @mcc welcome to the future!

Bishop Whitewind Jun 24, 2023

@Helldiver_M @mcc lol sup 👍

ティージェーグレェ Jun 24, 2023

@Helldiver_M it's almost as if the Internet was designed for interoperability using libre/free open source protocols with multiple implementations or something? (Also see: FTP, TCP/IP, DNS, UUCP, SMTP, NNTP, HTTP, IRC, SILC, XMPP, etc. It's not just ActivityPub/Mastodon/snac/etc.) @mcc

Anyways, enjoy! Many of us will keep doing what we've always been doing hopefully more will see the light and stop trying to create walled garden fiefdoms which only provide profits for a few, eventually.

Maybe one day, we'll even figure out wealth redistribution and eliminate starvation and homelessness and problems in the real world which are arguably, a lot more important than anything the so-called "tech bros" have ever provided?

It's good to have goals.

Evan Prodromou Jun 24, 2023

@Helldiver_M @mcc hello back!

Chancerubbage Jun 25, 2023

@Helldiver_M @mcc @mastodonmigration

Point of information.

Do you find the fediverse the least bit like Reddit?

Because as it is now, I can’t see that as possibly the case at all, from a mere structure and interaction model.

Curious to hear real world reports. Probably many are, especially those whose interaction with Reddit was mostly ‘read only’

David Neto Jun 23, 2023

@mcc

Thank you for explaining it like I'm an absolute beginner.

Not that I'm *looking* for more input channels. But this does look interesting.

Danielle Navarro Jun 23, 2023

@mcc My first interaction there was a cis person telling me how "cis people are normal and we shouldn't need a word to describe them". If that's the "nice" version of threadiverse I think I'll pass

https://mstdn.social/@feditips/106835057054633379

William Jun 24, 2023

@mcc uh I thought lemmy and kbin were different things? Both activitypub and interoperable to some extent, but different code bases.

Not that I'm on an instance of either, not previously being a serious redditor.

I got the impression that there were a lot more people on lemmy instances but the developer was maybe problematic, which may or may not matter to anyone on an instance not run by the developer.

FediTips has moved! (@[email protected])

Content warning: Please don't use Lemmy :( Human rights, oppression

Mastodon 🐘

@phenidone Different codebases. In my spelunking so far they're well interoperable and not that different.

noodle Jun 24, 2023

@mcc anyone tried reading toots from there? I like the Reddit/forum format more than the mastodon/Twitter one. But I’d also like to take my follows with me to Lemmy

@loud_noodle I think KBin is supposed to be better at this than Lemmy (The software is)