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Mitch Effendi (ميتش أفندي)I am absolutely gobsmacked by the journalistic achievement that @mozilla pulled off with their mental health, prayer, and lifestyle app audit.
Highly worth a read if you are like me and live in the orbit of these trendy app-based therapy services.
PJ "Vote Green" CoffeyThanks for this. As far as I can see Better Help is doing its best to drive private counsellors out of business.
Legal but very definitely not ethical.
MOVED TO PLUSH.CITY@Homebrewandhacking @msprout @mozilla there also was a scandal where they reccomended one of the gay patients to change their sexuality
Jeff Craig
John Peden
matt@msprout @mozilla thanks. I found it valuable to click through to the guide itself, and then again on some of the apps which I've heard the most about.
Particularly interesting, in a depressing way, is BetterHelp which seems to sponsor more than half of the podcasts I listen to. I had no idea they were fined 7.8 million dollars this year by the US Federal trade commission for disclosing personal health data to other companies. (Facebook, Snapchat, Criteo, and Pinterest were named).
Vijay PremaThis is as suspected. One of the best things i did for my mental health was just avoid using proprietary software where possible. They almost always tie back to some mechanism designed to stir your head up (e.g. targeting ads) or suck you in to use the app longer to get more data.
I only use two simple mental health and meditation apps: Breathly and Bodhi timer. Both are open source from Fdroid and neither use Internet.
Zee@mozilla @msprout I wish I could read what @mozilla has to say
Unfortunately, for some #accessibility is as unimportant to some as #security is to others.
Security and #privacy are things that are important to all of us, not just people who can #read the #Mozilla #website without the need for a #ScreenReader.
Hey Moz, show us who matters without showing us who matters!
Simon Müller 
@zyz need a transcript or something? (would that even be the right word here?)
@Rush nope. It’s a matter of coding the website/web page to allow #ScreenReaders to remove unnecessary content and permit the technology to focus on giving providing the subject information.
If your average document is readable by a screen reader (it is), then it is #coding that removes or interrupts the tech.
In other words, this kind of #accessibility is a choice
At least that’s how I see it.
@zyz I looked at the sent and served source of the web page, and it returns okay HTML that *should* be read fine in accessibility software (as far as I'm aware). Are you sure there's not something else causing this?
@Rush I am sure. I’ve been using screen readers for years
My familiarity with coding goes back to my first computer- a brand new Commodore Vic-20 in 1982. I taught myself html the year before Microsoft released the first webpage html editor that I know of- I think it was called Frontpage
I also recognize that my particular disability permits for a great many opportunities for confusion, however in this case I am sure that I understand what to do
(I had another way to read it.)
@zyz that's quite odd I'd say
Can you give me a rundown of your setup (as in software you use for this purpose)? I wanna see if I can replicate the issue on my system and then formally report it to the correct places if I can.
@Rush I use Siri’s Content Reader on an Apple device
My settings include larger than normal font settings, and I swipe down from the top of the screen to initiate the reader
@Rush via highlighting the text a section at a time and having Siri read that portion of the page
@zyz oh, seems you were already on it, I'll be trying to replicate this on my iPad, if I can 
Thanks!
@Rush No problem. You may find that there is an issue with its ability to #synchronize Siri’s voice with highlighted text. It’s a known issue that I’ve been talking to #Apple #Accessibility (US phone number: 877-204-3930) about for about a year
More voices to amplify the #sync problem to Apple would be great, but they are wonderful at addressing most problems.
I recommend that people who are #LivingWithDisabilities call that number for Apple #assisstance
Jamie TehZee (@[email protected])
@[email protected] nope. It’s a matter of coding the website/web page to allow #ScreenReaders to remove unnecessary content and permit the technology to focus on giving providing the subject information. If your average document is readable by a screen reader (it is), then it is #coding that removes or interrupts the tech. In other words, this kind of #accessibility is a choice At least that’s how I see it.
@zyz Thanks. To give some context, I'm a screen reader user myself and I'm not having any trouble reading the article or the front page of the guide, so I'm curious as to what problem you're seeing. I do notice the guide could do with more headings and/or landmarks, but from what I can see, the content does appear to be accessible... but perhaps I'm not looking at the same page you're looking at, which is why I asked about what page you're looking at specifically. @msprout @mozilla
Matthew (Moved to blahaj.zone)
The Evil Microwizard@msprout @mozilla I think this totally deserves a blurb/snippet that draws curious clicks!
"Mozilla investigated the privacy and security practices of 32 mental health and prayer apps [...] 28 of the 32 apps were slapped with a *Privacy Not Included warning label, indicating strong concerns over user data management. And 25 apps failed to meet Mozilla’s Minimum Security Standards [...]"