Pwnallthethings

Ugh. Wtf is this nonsense.

The norm is against politicized prosecution; not against prosecution of politicians.

Not only do many countries prosecute politicians, including former presidents, but the *United States* does too, incl of congressmen or former presidents from the other party

Jun 10, 2023 at 5:00pmWeb
Show threadBrad PatrickJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings “Experts” eh? Do they believe in the rule of law, the Constitution and equal justice?
Show threadPedestrianError  Jun 10, 2023
@bradpatrick @Pwnallthethings “Expert” = rich white man who uses his power to enforce the status quo
Show threadThat Anonymous CowardJun 10, 2023

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How did they find experts in something that has never happened before?

Show threadThat Anonymous CowardJun 10, 2023

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Oh that right... Dersh is still out there giving interviews. No wonder they say experts instead of giving names.

Show threadJeremyPatMartinJun 10, 2023
@That_AC @Pwnallthethings these are good questions that the corporate media don't want us seriously considering
Show threadth3blu3kn19ht 🛡️Jun 13, 2023
@That_AC @Pwnallthethings
That's the question.
I also want to know
Show threadWaterluvianJun 10, 2023

@Pwnallthethings

Some Americans badly crave having a king again. Democracy overwhelms them.

Show threadBuster McNuttJun 10, 2023

@waterluvian @Pwnallthethings

Heaven is a Kingdom!

Show threadAuntie MameJun 10, 2023
@waterluvian @Pwnallthethings I should do my dissertation on people who just aren’t cut out for democracy.
Show threadFemme MalheureuseJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings Who are these so-called experts? Why aren't they providing named sources? Ugh.
Show threadATellurianJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings France and Japan have somehow managed to survive the prosecution of former leaders.
Show threadBob Blaskiewicz 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇬🇱Jun 10, 2023

@Pwnallthethings

What expert?

Show threadKyle Memoir 🍉🐧Jun 10, 2023

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"Experts say..."

It sounds so very much like Trump himself:

"Everybody knows..."

Show threadStan DiegoJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings the corporate mainstream media is complicit.
Show threadYou Might Be a FascistJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings I wonder what those experts say about the U.S. government refusing to criminally prosecute a brazen criminal just because he is a former leader who declared his candidacy specifically as a political shield against accountability for the crimes at issue. Might that test the nation's democratic system in a manner that stretches far beyond the merits of the case itself? 🤔
Show threadEddie the BulldogJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings exactly. This is the Trump narrative. Ask Spiro Agnew.
Show threadmartin lentink 🇪🇺 🇺🇦📎Jun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings Those "Experts" should brush up on the Constitution, separation of powers and the rule of law, without which a true democracy cannot exist.
Show threadJaneGrayJun 10, 2023
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Infuriating. SHAME on ABC News for this dangerous nonsense.
Show threadTheCatsMeowJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings The “merits of the case” are profoundly significant. If he gets in office again, it will be way worse: a complete and total dictatorship.
Show threadEarBuzzJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings Click porn from #ABC for the maggots out there - nice job covering what now passes for news and investigative journalism
Show threadSerionJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings
If the name was Obama or Clinton, I'm confident the narrative would be different
Show threadRiaResistsJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings please find abc’s contact info & leave your well-worded opinion.
Even tho it sucks we have to call all this bs out. Trump disrupted everything enough.
Media doesn’t have to keep stocking it
Show threadWoodswalkedJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings ABC is showing who they are.
Believe them, when they show you.
Show threadlolonurseJun 10, 2023
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Who the frick are these "experts"? "Experts" also say if you cross your eyes, they'll get stuck that way.
Show threadGabriel PettierJun 10, 2023

@Pwnallthethings As a French, i'm really happy that Sarkozy is getting condemned, and will probably be again for a few things, head of states should be exemplary, the office shouldn't be a pass to avoid jail for crimes.

Are these "experts" named, or are they a rhetorical device to give weight to the author opinion?

Show threadAsymmetricblueJun 10, 2023

@Pwnallthethings I’ll leave this here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes

List of American federal politicians convicted of crimes - Wikipedia

Show threadThomasJun 10, 2023

@Pwnallthethings Did Mango Mussolini write this? "Many people are saying..." "Experts say..." What "experts"? Who are they? Name names.

Garbage reporting.

Show threadSteve TorrenteJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings Someone on Scripps News yesterday was saying the next president "whoever it is" will have to "think about pardoning Trump."
Show threadNicholas WeaverJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings
And its not like the Republicans haven't practiced such political games for years now without the massive clearcut criming (Durham report, Bengasi, and possibly/arguably Whitewater).
Show threadSterling Hammer Jun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings also like… what’s the alternative ABC? We just let them break laws with impunity because there’s an election? 😐
Show threadVoronJun 11, 2023
@Pwnallthethings @cdlhamma Yup, that’s pretty much it
Show threadMx. Luna Corbden 🐸Jun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings @JamesGleick Not prosecuting crimes because the person is a politician IS a politicized prosecution decision! They keep flipping things on their heads!
Show threadPwnallthethingsJun 10, 2023
@corbden @JamesGleick Correct
Show threadferricoxideJun 10, 2023
@corbden
@Pwnallthethings

To the GQP, it's less "you can't prosecute politicians for their (real) crimes", it's that "you can't prosecute our politicians for their (real) crimes" (but feel free to lynch not "our" politicians and/or their families for various affronts).
Show threadBill LambJun 10, 2023

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That ABC News quote is some serious BS. 😏

When you're paid to write on deadline, you WILL come up with something to write.

#journalism

Show threadmccJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings Was there a norm against former presidents consciously committing felonies. Was that ever a norm
Show threadSpicewallaJun 10, 2023

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Seems like yet another variation of "only Democrats have agency."

Show threadKathy E. Gill 🇺🇦Jun 10, 2023

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Dear. Lord.

US news organizations have learned nothing since 2015.

Despite the title ABC News, this is opinion, opinion of the worst kind. No sources. Handwaving. Had I turned this in for an assignment while in J-school, it would have gotten an F. If one of my undergrads did it today, I’d be writing “who says” throughly. BS.

Here’s the link:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/donald-trump-indicted-time-sources/story?id=99408228

Donald Trump indicted for 2nd time, in classified documents investigation: Sources

ABC News
Show threadFrank InserraJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings And not applying the law to a citizen who appears to have committed serious criminal law violations with potentially devastating repercussions because he formerly held public office would not upset an important norm? Damn fools.
Show threadAuntie MameJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings I’m from Illinois. We jail our politicians.
Show threadFrank InserraJun 10, 2023
@ymasumac @Pwnallthethings Shit, I'm from Massachusetts, and we let ours run the city of Boston from a jail cell.
Show threadAuntie MameJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings The long standing norm is not having a criming President.
Show threadzemsgramJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings the norms were upended by TFG.
Show threadSteffen ChristensenJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings It's peak "making powerful people responsible for their crimes is treason" season.
Show threadBlake C. StaceyJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings "experts" can eat one (1) entire bag of dicks
Show threadDenis RobertJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings « Experts »… Name them or shut up, ABC. I’m pretty sure these so-called “experts” have (R) after their names.
Show threadGeoff WilbournJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings well 🤔🤔 FUCK those “experts” 😁
Show threadJ Λ M Ξ SJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings not quite correct. the US has never prosecuted a former President.
Show threadGuerillaGrueJun 10, 2023

@Pwnallthethings

I mean... they're not *wrong.* But they're not arguing in good faith either.

Yeah, it upends traditions. But traditions need upended now and again, and frankly, it's supposed to be the job of the left, the "liberals," to do that.

For the last couple decades the traditions have been getting overturned by the "conservatives" first, as they've fought to re-inact extreme voter limitations and power-grabs.

Overturn those norms, before you have no power to overturn anything else.

Show threadEdelruth, PBS Passport HolderJun 10, 2023

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For shame @ABCNews promulgating this partisan hackery.

They should Read The Indictment.

Show threadSLCW💥Jun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings The norm is nobody is above the law, and anyone caught violating the law is subject to prosecution. The only thing unusual in this case is that the suspect used to be president. And that point is irrelevant to the administration of justice.
Show threadlolonurseJun 10, 2023
@slcw @Pwnallthethings
That point SHOULD BE irrelevant to the administration of justice.
#nopersonisabovethelaw
#lockhimup
Show threadSebastian SylvanJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings rule of law is literally a core tenet of the founding on this country. We are who we are because even presidents are accountable.
Show threadTom Bellin Jun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings Experts say it might have been a mistake to elect a sociopathic mob boss. Normalcy-biased news reports that papered over his flaws to provide "balance" enabled dangerous, unethical, and, in the end, illegal behavior.
Show threadChris AdamsonJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings @donmelton Off the top of my head: Rod Blagoyovic (sp?), Kwame Kilpatrick, Jim Guy Tucker, Bill Campbell… this isn’t hard, y’all.
Show threadferricoxideJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings

Much like stupid people don't (really) get irony, most don't get nuance, either.
Show threadNonya Bidniss 🥥🌴Jun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings Once again a major media outlet is extremely invested in fucking Americans.
Show threadBRIAN GULLJun 10, 2023
@Pwnallthethings Bullshit,