Where did that Reddit AMA go?
Addressing the community about changes to our API

Dear redditors, For those of you who don’t know me, I’m Steve aka u/spez. I am one of the founders of Reddit, and I’ve been CEO since 2015. On...

reddit
Doubling down.
"Some apps such as Apollo, Reddit is Fun, and Sync have decided this pricing doesn’t work for their businesses”
Someone needs to learn how to read the room. Damn that’s some bad PR.

So the AMA ended up being 20k almost exclusively negative comments and 14 non answers that just pissed people off more.

Dave Chappelle has some salient advice for next time:

I don't think a 2 day Reddit blackout is going to do anything. Guessing they'll just wait it out and do nothing.

If it was set up as "until things change” it'd be a lot more interesting. Mostly because I think Reddit would panic at some point and do something really stupid, which would be fun to watch.

@paul I personally black-out starting then and will not read/post again until either they back off, or June 30th hits. And if it's the latter I will just quit and blackhole reddit on my router, as I've done with Twitter.
@paul Most subreddits are going dark from the 12th onwards. Only a handful are only going out for two days. At least that’s my understanding
@sladewatkins @paul The one I read most often has cut down on posts to less than 1 per day already, will go completely dark on the 12th.
@paul I think some of the subreddits are doing that.
@paul some subs are doing that for what it’s worth. I hope more join in.
@film_girl @paul Elon probably has some superstar mods he can send over to sleep at Reddit HQ and pour their life force into the subs
@film_girl good, I hope more of them do as well. I just don't see anything changing short of a big shake up of management at this point. They probably could've walked back some of the stuff prior to that AMA, but now, ugly…
@paul oh, I fully agree. But Digg died. Slashdot died. Twitter is dying. Reddit is now fucking around and finding out. And I really hope all the would-be retail investors take notice too to see just how fragile the whole website is.
@paul the interesting thing is that Reddit disproportionately relies on a lot of free labor from a lot of dedicated users. Reddit has now shown that they want to make those users lives harder and that they very markedly don’t care about the community. You can replace some of those mods. But anyone who has worked in communities knows how hard it is to find GOOD volunteers. And Reddit has done everything it can to piss off its most loyal and important users.
@paul I’ll add that my favorite part of the AMA was that they had to make a post with direct links to all of the answers b/c the default sorting is so bad and stuff is so hard to find. Of course, the third party apps that are shutting down handled that stuff just fine.
@film_girl ha I thought that the main thing the AMA did was show how bad Reddit is for AMAs. Mission Accomplished.
@paul remember when Reddit fired their amazing employee who handled all the high profile AMAs? That was probably my least-favorite Reddit drama b/c I know Victoria and she’s wonderful.
@film_girl I stopped reading that subreddit when that happened and never started again.
@paul same. Victoria had been in my office literally the week that it happened giving us a presentation and we were working out details for me to do an AMA. Never again. I didn’t even go on Reddit for months after that. Might have been longer. And I’ve never really been as engaged as I once was.

@film_girl i stopped using Reddit after a hoax that someone perpetrated indicating that they had terminal cancer. I gave up on the entire site at that point.

I often wonder how many people swore off Reddit and ended up going elsewhere to find their communities.

@paul went about as well as i expected 🙃

@paul Right? If you're not gonna make a genuine effort to engage, why the fuck bother?

I saw one comment calling out Spez for his complete lack of preparation for this event and it was 100% on point. He should have had at least a dozen or so answers to anticipated questions ready to go, but he was unable to meet even that low bar. How he expects to successfully see the company through an IPO is a mystery to me.

@paul As I said in my reporting on this, the questions were going to be cherry picked, approved by legal, and have a spin that favours only Reddit’s side.

It ended up being much more embarrassing than that.

@sladewatkins insane that they didn’t do that. I guess to me kind of insane that they did anything at all.
@paul @sladewatkins I wonder if it was just ego getting in the way of rational decision making.
@kherge @paul It was (and still is) absolutely an ego thing. That much is clear from his communication—“I’m right even if the evidence proves me to be wrong,” etc.
@paul i'm curious for your take on this - bizzarely enough it seems like they've somehow managed to handle shutting out third party clients worse that twitter?
@joshhunt they're both terrible in different ways, can't really say which is worse.
@paul It was horrible. So where do we go? I’ve been a 16 year user, paid subscriber for the past 3 years (cancelled now). I can’t stay on #reddit after this. Is there a #Fediverse alternative?
@shanelord @paul the groups I care about have discords, we'll see how long that holds up tho
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@paul I couldn't believe he wanted to do an AMA in the first place. It's like he wanted to ruin his reputation even more?????
@via r/iamverysmart

@paul more like r/murderedbywords

Concidentally Reddit seems down lmao

@paul it’s funny that he thinks setting fire to his user base will make them profitable. This IPO is a pump and dump.

@derekbeachy @paul I think it's really cool and fun that the social networks that I use(d) are being burned down for the insurance in sequence.

Gonna go see if I can find the URL for Fark, if that's still around. Maybe I still have mod points on Slashdot?

@paul Jesus Christ, what a piece of shit.
@paul You can also see he copy and pasted an answer by leaving the “A:" in there https://archive.ph/X6EJq (subsequently removed)
@paul That’s, like, “sorry, the intern sent that”-level bad.
@paul “We’Re NoT ProFiTaBle”, hate that garbage, trying to pretend like me with $10 in my wallet has more money than Reddit while they sit in this building and drive 6 figure cars.

@Sonikku congrats on somehow having a worse take than spez

Do you know how any of this works, or?

@jason you know what, fair enough. I get that Reddit as a company can be in the hole monetarily; at the same time I have very little sympathy for Spez and board members who are all sitting on 6 or 7 figure bank accounts, especially throwing third party devs under the bus like this.

Also, cool last name 👍

@Sonikku lol I hadn’t even noticed! A lifetime of saying “ess eee en”

I thought you were generally hating on devs there, who are having to weather all of this and, yes, probably have nice things.

Startups run at a loss for a while before getting cash flow positive (or EDITBA or whatever measure you want), and often founders go without for a bit to hang on to equity instead.

The toxic ingredient is the VC who is funding something they KNOW is unprofitable suddenly demanding blood…

@jason yeah same problem my whole life, everyone wants to spell “son” haha.

And nah not hating on devs at all, just the Spez and collaborators on the board :-P

@Sonikku I also just learned Aaron Swartz was a founder and that is… depressing. In a better timeline, maybe he’d still be around pushing for an open web.

@Sonikku but not turning a profit doesn’t mean the devs don’t get reasonable salaries for their sector… it just means they’re burning money faster.

Reddit is an extremely strange beast to (a) not have already IPO’d, (b) not have sold to equity, and (c) not be self-sustaining after nearly two decades (?!?)

I don’t know what they think they’re doing but it doesn’t seem to be going well.

@paul 🔥️ What an amazing self-own.
@paul well you know, we all said we got tired of execs and their corpspeak, at least he’s speaking his mind.
@paul some cheap answer right there. If they actually built a good premium app they could even be profitable!
@paul oh gaawwwwd. He sounds jealous af.
@paul “we’re entirely motivated by profit while simultaneously being terrible at our jobs.”
@paul holy shit. Whichever vc is advising him probably recognizes his reputation is already done for lmao
@paul He’s such a cunt.
@paul this is a great example of why there are fewer and fewer founders still running these companies.
@paul but refreshingly honest
@paul One might think after the twitter API debacle and ensuing 3rd party app slaughter (RIP Tweetbot) another company wouldn't pull almost exactly the same thing. Yet, here we are.
@paul Things must be bad. It's hard to spin "it's this or go out of business"
@numist they are really really bad at this.
@paul Real ballers don't react. They respond. He isn't a real baller.
@paul @marsh931 ‘Reddit the Room’ is a perfect headline for all this
@paul You and @christianselig should just make your own Reddit/Twitter replacement. One can dream right? 🥲