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Christina WarrenYou know, the ironic thing is #Reddit could’ve required people to pay for Reddit Premium to get API client access and I would have. A lot of people wouldn’t have, but I would have. That would’ve let the devs potentially keep the apps running and juice Reddit’s per-user fees. What an utter waste. #VivaApollo
Matt@film_girl yup, exactly
Alex@film_girl why let the AppMaker pay anyway? User pays for his usage and just adds a user token he receives after registering.
It’s all one big mess
It’s all one big mess
popey@film_girl Quite the opposite will happen, of course. I was a premium subscriber, but I just cancelled as a result of this nonsense. I'm sure I'm not alone.
@popey oh, absolutely. Way to alienate the people who care enough about your site that they either work on it for free as mods or willing to PAY for third-party clients (which means they could’ve paid you if you’d been smarter).
Hunter Chorey 
@film_girl Steve comes across a lot different than he did back at school. :(
@hchorey power/money corrupts.
Kurt Antonini@film_girl it feels like there is no real world consequences to these big social networks for effectively blocking this stuff.
Charlie Fish@film_girl I felt the same way about Tweetbot and Twitter. Some of these 1st party apps are absolutely awful. The love indie developers like @christianselig & @tapbots put into their apps is unrivaled. They make platforms better.
Rick Williams@film_girl This would have been a great start. What the app makers really needed was a longer runway. I don’t know when the bulk of Apollo’s renewals are, but I know I wouldn’t want to run the bulk of my yearly subscriptions at a loss for 8 months in the hopes that I could make it up over time with updated pricing, especially with current behavior. They are basically making him just refund everyone and move on. Exactly what they wanted.
@RickWilliams oh, for sure. Giving him even 90 days to adjust would’ve helped. He could rally community support for make up the shortfall needed for refunds. But this clearly isn’t about the hard costs of running the API, it’s about Reddit not wanting these clients to exist at all.
@film_girl Have you looked into #Lemmy or any other #Reddit alternatives? Feels like another chance for decentralized platforms to rise.
@fishcharlie Reddit is the hardest one to recreate I think just because of the massive array of communities. I am in so many disparate subreddits. Some might migrate but most won’t because of how hard it is to get setup and for others to use.
@film_girl Do you think you're gonna switch back to the official Reddit app then?
Jose Munoz@film_girl Zero doubt i'll be using reddit less, much less.
Andrew Moscardino@film_girl I absolutely would have paid both Reddit and Apollo go make this all work. Their loss.
Josh@film_girl yup I would have paid a dollar or two a month if I could keep using Apollo. Instead I deleted all the content I provided to the site and will delete my account shortly when I get a chance to log into Reddit on a computer.
Jerry Gonzalez 
@film_girl FUUDGE. I just found out about the news after reading your toot. Goodness. What a shame.
I haven’t used Reddit since the first announcement
I can say though, Mastodon + Ivory + Following tags has filled that gap for me
The experience is different, but this community just feels much better. E.g. i was here during WWDC, and i didn’t feel like i missed out on reactions and realtime feedback. In fact, this place was more credible because actual developers were here giving their take
David Lynch@film_girl See also Twitter and "why not add something *useful* like third-party-client access to Twitter Blue?"
ben@film_girl yep. Years ago, I’d have subbed to twitter for third party access, but it’s as if they want our data and not our money…
Alex Tomkins@film_girl Absolutely!
When your entire product depends on user submitted content to continue running, keep your users (especially power users!) happy.
Don Whiteside@film_girl It’s a clear indication they never really wanted it to work. If they thought they could get money from users for API based access they would have gone after it themselves, directly. Why would they give developers a shot at marking that up and profiting? This is a way to eliminate users who aren’t being served ads and - probably more significantly - evading metric and identity gathering for resale and analysis.
richm@film_girl I wonder if the VC people are trying to generate a huge tax loss on their investments in Reddit. The cynicism now or in Twitter’s decline over the past year is… strange. Seems like there’s been a “credit rating downgrade” of power user bases that is being adopted by VC’ers plugging into strategy spreadsheets and nobody in the room(s) can dissent. Sad day.
Paul_a_phillips@film_girl absolutely, would have happily paid $5-10 per month. Now I’ll just walk away entirely.
Aaron@film_girl yeah, it just doesn't make sense to make client app developers pay for their users' usage of your API. It's like expecting my car company to pay for the fuel I use to drive places.
Charging users for extra API usage (or requiring Reddit Premium for it) would certainly have cut down on the number of third party app users, but plenty would have stuck around and it would have been a logically sound way to monetize.
I ended up canceling my Reddit Premium membership over it.
Steph Infection 🦠@film_girl Same. I don’t think I’ve been this attached to a social site since livejournal. The detox is gonna suck, but I can’t stomach that native app UX
Chancerubbage@film_girl i was thinking some of Reddits reasoning may have been also in keeping a third party client from blocking ads, or adding their own.
But I’ve never *noticed* an ad on Reddit, via Safari or Apollo, beyond reddits irritating ‘use our app/ continue in browser pop up.. I’m a read only user.
I have never experienced Reddits own app. Apollo seemed friendlier and seemed to be the recommended choice of users.
Felicity Reif@film_girl this is either an unforced error from Reddit, or they knew *exactly* what they were doing. Just awful.
Sami Samhuri@film_girl I’ve been on reddit since 2006 and have paid for gold/premium as long as it was offered. I cancelled last week and will never give them another dime, and will probably stop using it entirely. They’re dopes.