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Mallory's Musings & MischiefOne thing that was never emphasized enough in history class is that historical events keep happening as you get older and that it's quite stressful
Ricardo Harvin@malcircuit Didn't you know? History ended...
#Fukuyama 😬😑
Fiadh (she/fae/it)
Tim Ward ⭐🇪🇺🔶 #FBPE@malcircuit 'Cos at school it wasn't "history" if it was within living memory.
Juggling With Eggs@malcircuit studying history and politics in the 90’s gave me a very warped idea of the future…the Berlin Wall had recently come down, Nelson Mandela was freed, then the USSR partially imploded, the West believed they had ‘won’ the Cold War and Francis Fukuyama was saying it was the End of History (if we’re all liberal democracies then there will be no further war). My university education ended in 2000. By the following year - 2001, the world was an entirely different place again.
strwbrryJen@JugglingWithEggs @malcircuit now like have of us from that time are basically saying capitalism has got to go, a bit of an irony in my book
Kaila@JugglingWithEggs @malcircuit I studied Fukuyama in 2005. Had a prof that assigned that essay (Cold War, WWII, "Castro is the only remaining true commie and we should put him in a museum" kind of guy). As my interests have pretty much fallen along mostly cultural and economic history lines and I tend to gravitate away from war, except for its impact on the wider society, I immediately felt he was full of BS. The "end of history" indeed - as if economic, cultural, and political forces still don't act to shape history in liberal democracies.
Chris [list of emoji]I know, right?
Skrrp 
@malcircuit I don't know about that. My history teacher was quite emphatic about not only events continuing to happen, but also that they would be the _same_ events, over and over.
Mike Spooner@skrrp @malcircuit "History doesn't repeat. Historians merely repeat prior ones" - Trad.
cori@skrrp @malcircuit I also had that experience though tinted with a bit of a rose-colored interpretation of the “doomed to repeat it” trope. Or maybe that was *my* 16 yr old optimism - “Surely we can learn from our past well enough *now* not to just do it all over again”.
lol.
@skrrp @malcircuit there a phrase i really like to describe history "history doesnt repeat but it often rhymes" is how i think about it anyway
Darrel PlantWhat bothers me is that nobody mentioned that becoming a phlegmatic old man would involve so much actual phlegm.
Major Denis Bloodnok@darrelplant @malcircuit Also that age would not bring so much wisdom as an unending battle with nose hair.
Martin Hamilton@malcircuit So much for "The End of History" !
Heather@malcircuit I'm very tired of living in unprecedented times.
I've moved to 
Anne Ominous@malcircuit the interesting thing to me throughout my education was the relentless focus on one part of US history - #revolutionary war to WW2.... like it was held in a box, and this was what "History" was
the ONLY reason why i was taught anything about post-#WW2 US, such as the #KoreanWar or #Vietnam, was bc i was in honors #History in high school. if you werent in that class, your 'history' lessons ended with the end of a very old war, and rarely if ever went beyond #US borders.
ShadSterling@malcircuit we bear the curse of living in interesting times
Propellerheads feat: Miss Shirley Bassey - History Repeating
Jack
Alex, the Hearth Fire@malcircuit doesn't help that in a lot of US schools history class ends in the 1950s, so we never learn about the history that's most relevant to us unless we actively seek it out
Marc Trius@WizardOfDocs
I very strongly object to the notion that history is "most relevant" by virtue of being more recent. 1660s American history is just as relevant as 1960s.
I have kids in school in the US and all I can say is that they teach very little history (of any era) and most of what they do teach are lies and distortions. As my mom, educated in the USSR, warned me—don't get A's in history at school, you'll end up believing what they teach
@alter_kaker @malcircuit you're not wrong
but I do believe that preventing us from learning recent history enables us to keep repeating the history that harms us most directly.
say a future president decides we need to invade somebody. We don't study the Vietnam War, or the Iraq War, so we support it out of blind nationalism.
History classes end at a peak of American nationalism and supposed national unity, with the implication that this is how things still are.
@alter_kaker @malcircuit in fact, it wouldn't surprise me at all if the continued existence of COVID is due in part to lack of public knowledge about how the government treated AIDS. That's after the end of history class, and it's not something that would make it into the Texas curriculum anyway. (p sure Texas is still where the textbooks get printed.)
Kris Sargent, MD@malcircuit ...and those really important ones you learned and/or lived through as a kid become unknown to the latest generation.
Extinction (our fate)The number of people who died as refugees on the road in the religious wars of the 1500s was high. Uncounted. "Historical events" are full of casualties and people who are too stressed to even run.
Kevin Karhan 
@malcircuit the frequency and severity also increases...
Chris L@kkarhan @malcircuit I doubt sure the current ills are much worse than Cuban missile crisis or WW II, or Stalin etc. that my parents lived thru. As bad as the Middle East wars of the century are, so far they are not unprecedented. Global warming we still have time to act on and repair the ignorance of our 20th c optimists. Equality is in peril but still better than 1950, globally and in the US. But the OP remains, whew I need some Netflix while reading the papers.
👩🦯The Blind Fraggle@malcircuit Right, there should really be a warning about that both at the beginning and end of the year.
OldBrushNewPaper@malcircuit THIS 10^10 times THIS!!
random thoughts@malcircuit I grew up in Turkey in 80-90s. History ended in 1945. There was nothing to discuss after that.
30-odd years later, I'm still learning about what went on during 50s to 70s.
CrazyMyra@malcircuit Also slightly stressful is being on the internet once you're a bit older (and have lived through some things) and having to argue with people who didn't learn about them in history class
Nearlyknowledgeable 👻@malcircuit as a trainee history teacher, one of the most surreal experiences is using modern day things I've lived through to help understand the past. It's strange aha
Probably Paul@malcircuit To paraphtase Alan Bennett from The History Boys, "How do I define history? It's just one fucking thing after another."
mathew@malcircuit History is the subject that allows us to recognize our mistakes each time we repeat them.
Jennifed@malcircuit I feel a bit compelled to pay attention so I can remember events because I just know I'm going to need to explain it to someone who didn't live through it!
Michelle Birkby@malcircuit and also that even while history is happening you still have to do the boring everyday things like the shopping and the cooking
Doug 🌈🇨🇦 
@malcircuit
That's why Republicans don't want history taught in schools. They want their concentration camps and extermination centers to be the first Final Solution.
That's why Republicans don't want history taught in schools. They want their concentration camps and extermination centers to be the first Final Solution.
gwinston99@malcircuit
Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times."
Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times."
@malcircuit - It's scary when you get to nearly 70, and events in your own lifetime feature in the GCSE History lessons I frequently cover 🤯 .
I've lived almost twice as long as the number of years between the end of WW1 and my birth 🤔
Scott F@malcircuit The classic statement about if we don’t know history, we’ll repeat it, but we’ve spent the last 70+ watching movies with the Nazis being the bad guys and still people are like “yes, that’s for me” 🤦♂️
James Baker 🍁
Daniel Howard 🌻@malcircuit WW2 would have been hella stressful.
Gretchen Anderson@malcircuit history major here and I read about so much fucked up shit like, welp, that’s history. And now it’s like, wait, there were people like me, back then, being like, make this stop!
Mendie 
To say nothing of celebrity deaths.
Michael Jackson, if you will, "broke the seal" for me.
@malcircuit Not all of them are. there are plenty of good historical events. We just have to slog through the mud to find them.
@malcircuit This is why people become interested in history when they're older.. because it happened to them.
Looking for explanations…@malcircuit I’m older & love history. Always wanted to be involved in historical events. I’d like to be a bit more selective now.