Malcolm CaseyMay 14, 2023
Hegelian Princess
Wow the United Nations released a report on the toxic effects of the gender critical movement in the UK and not a single media outlet reported on it, it's almost as if the country doesn't actually have a free press
May 13, 2023 at 12:31amWeb
Show threadHegelian PrincessMay 13, 2023

As a point of comparison: there have been *very few* articles on the #ejercitoespia leaks here in Mexico, due to state intimidation of media outlets that report on it, and a lot of people had to turn to NY Times articles about it. People outside of Mexico would probably be like, "oh, of course" because of the kinds of ideas they have about Mexico

As the UK is a traditionally and still majority white country, they don't draw those same kinds of conclusions about the UK when the UK fails to report on unfavorable things about itself

Yet there were still *some* news outlets here that reported on the leaks, in the UK there's *nothing* on the UN report

Show threadUrsidinoj/The BjornsdottirsMay 13, 2023
@julieofthespirits yup
Show threadCupidsMolotov🦂:labrys-progpride: :labrys-chaostar: May 13, 2023
@julieofthespirits yep this is the first I'm hearing of it, got a link?
Show threadtimorlMay 13, 2023

@CupidsMolotov Took me a while, the UN page is quite a bit of a mess, but I think this is it: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2023/05/uk-keep-calm-and-respect-diversity-says-un-expert . There is a terribly formatted PDF linked in the article with more details.

@julieofthespirits

UK: Keep calm and respect diversity, says UN expert

LONDON (11 May 2023) – Abusive rhetoric by politicians, the media and social commentators has trickled down to produce increasingly abusive and hateful speech against LGBT persons in the United Kingdom (UK), the UN independent expert on sexual orientation and gender identity warned today.

OHCHR
Show threadTwilight ✨May 13, 2023
@julieofthespirits Any chance for a link? I'm having trouble finding it on my own :(
Show threadHegelian PrincessMay 13, 2023
@RadicalShiba https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/issues/sexualorientation/statements/eom-statement-UK-IE-SOGI-2023-05-10.pdf
Show threadTwilight ✨May 13, 2023
@julieofthespirits Thank you! <3
Show threadlorax b. horne  🍉May 13, 2023
@julieofthespirits I signed up to go to the press conference and they cancelled it and then never got back in touch about it being rescheduled. So in part, the UN also colluded to bury this report.
Show threadHegelian PrincessMay 13, 2023
@bbhorne did they give a reason / do you have any theories as to why?
Show threadThird spruce tree on the leftMay 13, 2023

@bbhorne @julieofthespirits I think "burying" is perhaps an overreaction here. This is an end of mission statement it is not the report itself. Its like a "here's what we made note of".

> The final report on the visit will be presented to the United Nations Human Rights Council by latest in June 2024, after a process of dialogue with the State.

The ACTUAL report due next year will go into greater depth on the findings, statistical analysis, recommendations, best practices etc.

Show threadThird spruce tree on the leftMay 13, 2023

@bbhorne @julieofthespirits Not saying that the lack of media coverage isn't discouraging, but this would be like reporting on "scientists think they discover cause of disease but still have a lot of graphs to plot and reports to write to be sure".

The takeaway in the closing paragraph are perhaps most immediately poignant: it still sucks to be LGBT in the UK/GB/NI and those who ARE are pretty brave.

Show threadThird spruce tree on the leftMay 13, 2023
@bbhorne @julieofthespirits But I don't think anyone needs a new report to know that this is the case.
Show threadlorax b. horne  🍉May 13, 2023

@tezoatlipoca @julieofthespirits they had scheduled a press conference to announce their findings, and then called it off. I'll find the exact text. In context, without a new press conference convened to announce the report, it seems like they bowed to government pressure to not make a big deal about it. The email reads: "Please note that we have cancelled the news conference tomorrow, in order to provide more time for engagement with the UK government in relation to the substantive findings of this fact-finding mission (country visit to the UK) by the UN Independent Expert on protection against violence and discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity.

We will be sure to keep you updated and send you the news release as soon as published, along with the Independent Expert’s preliminary observations, as soon as they are issued — most likely on Tuesday or Wednesday of next week. He will also be available for interviews in relation to the findings once they are published.

Please feel free to stay in touch prior to then.

There will not be a news conference, yet an interview may be possible. Please find below the message I shared with other journalists, and let’s touch base next week." (They never did get back in touch)(not even to let us know about the publication of the report)

Show threadThird spruce tree on the leftMay 13, 2023

@bbhorne @julieofthespirits Fair enough. Again, not to defend the government, but the UN sometimes has to play overnice with host governments. If you drop a bombshell report that is incredibly critical of the host government you tend not to be invited back. And in this case if our mandate is to provide independent international objective assessment as to the plight of LGBT persons, not being invited back just adds more challenge to our goal.

(a few friends of mine do UN work and its tough)

Show threadHegelian PrincessMay 13, 2023
@tezoatlipoca @bbhorne going back to my original point, though, when those kinds of things occur that's also where having a free press has its role, to denounce the coverup
Show threadHegelian PrincessMay 13, 2023
@tezoatlipoca @bbhorne like idk every unfavorable forensics report from an international body was obviously always buried during the Peña Nieto government but also the next day at least one paper would put it on their front page
Show threadcatsynth / amanda cMay 13, 2023
@julieofthespirits now that we’ve imported that toxic movement to the USA, hopefully they will issue a report about what’s going on in various states here.
Show threadHegelian PrincessMay 13, 2023

@catsynth the special rapporteur on gender and sexuality went to the us last year I think

His view was not favorable

Show threadcatsynth / amanda cMay 13, 2023
@julieofthespirits thanks. I’ll look it up.