Avoid The Hack!May 2, 2023

Is #Gmail killing independent email?

"Is it okay that Gmail has the power to decide whether a business is sending spam or not?"

Gmail has rigged the email game imo. It makes running a self-hosted email server hard, even after properly configuring DKIM, DMARC, and SPF.

#cybersecurity #privacy #technology

https://tutanota.com/blog/posts/gmail-independent-email

Is Gmail killing independent email?

People report that self-hosted emails always end up in Gmail spam. Is there anything Google can do about it?

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Show threadJyrgen NMay 2, 2023
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IMO gmail don't kill independent email. I run a mailing list on my own server (with postfix, but my own very simple and AFAIK standards-compliant mailing list software) with about 20 recipients. Every now and then a message bounces for a gmail address. I tell them "get yourself a better email provider" and get on with my life. So far, no one had complained. There is one left with a gmail address.
All in all, gmail just isn't important enough to change what I do.
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@jyrgenn Google pretty much unilaterally sets the email standard given their dominance as an email provider.

I have my own private email server as well (avoid the hack). Most of the issues I’ve run into have been because of gmail.

May 2, 2023 at 6:31pmWeb
Show threadJyrgen NMay 2, 2023
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I understand what you are saying, but I don't care as much.
Maybe this is an American thing or one of the anglophone countries, but here in Central Europe they don't appear that dominant. As I said, not important enough to change my ways.
Show threadAvoid The Hack!May 2, 2023
@jyrgenn that makes sense! 🙂 I know a lot of people here in my part of the US that use Gmail and only Gmail for everything.
Show threadJyrgen NMay 3, 2023
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Here in Germany we have Web.de and GMX as popular email providers and the Deutsche Telekom as access provider with email, and the big web hosters 1&1 and Strato, who also provide email for hosted domains. All except DT belong to United Internet, but at least in parts operate separately. Privacy-focused providers Posteo and mailbox.org have gained traction.
So, there is some choice, ranging from free over cheap and decent (1€/month, without ads) to full-service.
Show threadAvoid The Hack!May 3, 2023
@jyrgenn I am familiar with mailbox.org!  Glad to hear they are gaining more popularity amongst the masses. Especially like their privacy focus.